you talked about looking at the universe of permitees. how did you identify this universe? and how do we honor those that were adversely affected and not and weed out those who are not really in the area? >> right. >> there are 116 street artist stalls under the arts commission street artist program in that location. and we can hear from tom decainey, but in meeting with the arts commission, they know who those individuals are under the program. any application that is submitted would be reviewed by the arts commission and the controller's office. i want to thank ben rosenfield for being willing to administer this program. as to the dpw licensees and permitees, those were numbers that were finished to us by the department of public works. >> supervisor peskin, i think it's a really good idea and i will be supporting items 4 and 56789 thank you for answering my questions. >> thank you supervisor. >> supervisor wiener. >> thank you madam president. so we had a long discussion about this in committee and supervisor peskin made some amendments that narrowed the scope in terms o

you talked about looking at the universe of permitees. how did you identify this universe?and how do we honor those that were adversely affected and not and weed out those who are not really in the area? >> right. >> there are 116 street artist stalls under the arts commission street artist program in that location. and we can hear from tom decainey, but in meeting with the arts commission, they know who those individuals are under the program. any application that is submitted would be reviewed by the arts commission and the controller's office. i want to thank ben rosenfield for being willing to administer this program. as to the dpw licensees and permitees, those were numbers that were finished to us by the department of public works. >> supervisor peskin, i think it's a really good idea and i will be supporting items 4 and 56789 thank you for answering my questions. >> thank you supervisor. >> supervisor wiener. >> thank you madam president. so we had a long discussion about this in committee and supervisor peskin made some amendments that narrowed the scope in terms of

the ideal situation the permitees would reduce numbers during that time. when we get the more favorable precip years they can actually expand operations. that is the place we need to be but very difficult for many of our ranchers to have that flexibility. >> yeah. and i understand that there are a lot of considerations there and i wouldn't dispute, i don't think any utah ranchers would dispute the fact it is necessary to restore range lands to, allow range lands a chance to catch up so that our grazing permitting processes remain sustainable but what i'm hearing from a number of ranchers in utah even after range land has been restored, after you know, being allowed to rest for a while, that it is still not opening up. that even once range conditions have improved substantially, grazing rights are not be be restored. why is that? can you tell me why that is happening? is that the case first of all, and if that is the case how do you justify that? >> well, each allotment has a management plan that basically lays out the rotation of the livestock, the during

you talked about looking at the universe of permitees. how did you identify this universe?and how do we honor those that were adversely affected and not and weed out those who are not really in the area? >> right. >> there are 116 street artist stalls under the arts commission street artist program in that location. and we can hear from tom decainey, but in meeting with the arts commission, they know who those individuals are under the program. any application that is submitted would be reviewed by the arts commission and the controller's office. i want to thank ben rosenfield for being willing to administer this program. as to the dpw licensees and permitees, those were numbers that were finished to us by the department of public works. >> supervisor peskin, i think it's a really good idea and i will be supporting items 4 and 56789 thank you for answering my questions. >> thank you supervisor. >> supervisor wiener. >> thank you madam president. so we had a long discussion about this in committee and supervisor peskin made some amendments that narrowed the scope in terms of