so it's clear, and the permittee signs off on this. regarding the issue whether or not it's a retail food establishment, that's not an issue here. because article 19-h is clear, a new permit shall not be issued if it's within 500 feet of a school or an existing tobacco -- permitted tobacco establishment. the exception one applies to retail food establishments and/or a tobacco smoke shop, cigar smoke shop, which is unapplicable here. appellant is correct, the previous owners were in the business of selling tobacco products, however, it changed ownership over a course of time, and therefore, the exception that they are referencing, again, applies to retail food establishments also requires a duration of the original permit holder, and the original permit holder did not sell the business to appellants nor as a retail food establishment. >> commissioner honda: i'm sorry, can you repeat that again? >> the original -- we've heard testimony that there was at least -- there was a change from the original owner to i believe flyers before it wen