but to the extent that we can use the existing processes to identify the highest performing pernell, keep them encourage them, continue to dshape. to the extent this is accelerated on us if it is accelerated, then we get into a position where we're forcing people out. at that point, i won't be able to sit here and guarantee you we're going to be keeping the right people. >> is the discussion formalizing longer periods of time between eligibility of promotion and promotion? >> it's a great point. it's a rubik's cube. we twist it and turn you want to promotions. it's anorming personnel, they hav on the other hand, it has th i would use an overused word but it's a matter of finding a balance between talent management and then managing the personnel system to treat people with dignity and respect, but also reshape the force. >> i really appreciate that. there are concerns, there should be concerns that for many of the men and women who are serving, the fact that they would be leaving the services faster perhaps than they had ever imagined. means we have to really assure they have the tal