i give perot credit.hink only good can come out of what andrew yang is doing and i wish him luck. history says it will be really hard. can he affect the two party candidates? yes, he can, he can come in a constructive way. host: ithaca, new york, on the republican line, ray. caller: good morning. mr. lieberman, i think you are the best democrat around by far. i just have a quick question. i've been really disappointed with president biden who seems to be caving into bernie and the squat. why is the disrespect for joe manchin, why do you think president biden is acting more like he was vice president? i don't understand this hard turn to the left. i wish he was more like you, sir. guest: thanks for your kind words. i've known joe biden forever. we met long ago because we had a mutual friend long before i came to the senate. we served together for 24 years. a wonderful person, really honorable and likable and always worked across party lines. on the committees that he chaired, he had conservative republican

but one thing that has happened effective for the third-party movement the most recent words ross perotnd had a little effect on trade policy that a bigger effect on the balance budget and not in part because of the ross perot pressure getting 19 percent of the vote which is significant and i give credit for that so only good can come out of what andrew yang is doing i wish him well as a two-party candidates are nominated yes he can in a constructive way i wish him well. host: ray on the republican line go ahead. >>caller: good morning gentlemen thank you are the best democrat around i have a quick question biden seems to besq caving so why is the disrespect for senator manchin? excuse me why is president biden acting more like a vice president or senator? i wish he was more like you. >> thank you. i have known joe biden forever. we met so long ago we had a mutual friend and we served together 23 years. a wonderful person honorable and likable always working across party lines he will conservative republicans warren hatch and stromit thurmond. and productively with both of them on major

i give perot credit.od can come out of what andrew yang is doing and i wish him luck. history says it will be really hard. can he affect the two party candidates? yes, he can, he can come in a constructive way. host: ithaca, new york, on the republican line, ray. caller: good morning. mr. lieberman, i think you are the best democrat around by far. i just have a quick question. i've been really disappointed with president biden who seems to be caving into bernie and the squat. why is the disrespect for joe manchin, why do you think president biden is acting more like he was vice president? i don't understand this hard turn to the left. i wish he was more like you, sir. guest: thanks for your kind words. i've known joe biden forever. we met long ago because we had a mutual friend long before i came to the senate. we served together for 24 years. a wonderful person, really honorable and likable and always worked across party lines. on the committees that he chaired, he had conservative republicans, ranking r

the next was in 1992 when ross perot won nearly 19% but not a single electoral vote.cessful third party was the abraham lincoln led republican party of 1860. but it is a mistake to look only through the prism of presidential politics. because there have been six independent elected governors since 1990. only one elected to a second term. that is angus king of maine. he caucuses with the have thes like bernie sanders from vermont. both yang and mcmullen said it is a way to solve our problems, an off-ramp to counter the one-party rule of deep red or blue states. big picture, it requires in justing the incentive structures that push candidates to the extreme in politics. that means election reforms like open primaries, rank choice voting end of the rig systemed of redistricting. change the rules, change the game. the drive behind the third-party dream is at the end of the day putting country over party. it's a good-faith effort to move our nation not left or right but forward. that's your reality check. >> yeah. it's just so hard to see folks putting country over over pa

teacher of the year honored at the white house today along with a few other teachers tabitha ross perotate invited by the first lady. of course, joe biden is also a teacher. they say they are grateful for allies in the white house to continue to push for equity in the classroom. apple unveiled more new products today, including upgraded air pods. and for the first time in 5 years. new mac book computers. the company says its new thinner models will be faster. a longer battery life. several popular port connections are coming back, including an hdmi port and an sd card slot and the mag safe power cord connector the touch bar on the top of the keyboard has been placed with standard set of keys. analysts say those are features of being on done that really the change is never caught on with apple users. max 8 is coming back. >> about the mac. you know, mac pro users were like, what about you forgot about us and now all of a sudden apple's delivering industry-leading performance and efficiency for their pro users with max. >> the new air pods are expected to have longer battery life new ear

i remember after the perot campaign in 192, thought for sure there would be a third party in the unitedy have more people identifying as independents but there's still hyper partisanship. democrats are sure that the republican party is on the wrong track and republicans feel the same way about democrats. that partisanship unites us all, something we hear in all focus group and you are vai, ds, rs, independents, all of them. >> as we go through now and the mid terms we'll go inside any time we can. up next, senator lindsey graham encourages his supporters to get a vaccine and it didn't go very well. why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema or atopic dermatitis under control? hide my skin? not me. by hitting eczema where it counts, dupixent helps heal your skin from within, keeping you one step ahead of eczema. and that means long-lasting clearer skin... and fast itch relief for adults. hide my skin? not me. by helping to control eczema with dupixent, you can show more with less eczema. don't use if you're allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur

that we know from the perot era. but i think the idea is that that would happen eventually.any states that had these kind of bands in effect. the thing that i feel sort of put my heart in my throat today, reading this briefs, was to hear the direct quotes from so many patients saying immediately that they are already trying or looking for, or expecting to try ways, home remedies things they have heard about on the internet things we've heard from friends might be a way to terminate their pregnancy. including a woman talking about throwing themselves down the states. they're already talking about going to those remedies. yes absolutely. what i would say, is roe is the floor. in a state like, texas with so many states in the south, we have so many abortion restrictions, that we are already navigating, access is already difficult. the stories you are hearing is not only in light of spca, they're coming the, surface there's certainly more drying at this moment. but these are things that i've heard from people even before, this access to abortion is already difficult. people have

now -- and then they said they had the innovation of ski passes therefore, ross perot once looked atst in that because i don't want to be partners with god because you don't know if it's going to snow or not the ski pass, you sell them before the year. they were up to 50% of the lift ticket revenues were coming from ski passes last year, a subscription business, and then they bought the other mountains around, you can buy -- but now last year was 50%. they lowered the price this year, tickets are up over 50% this year, revenues up over 50%, they got 50, 75% of the revenues are going to come from lift tickets this year that are sold in advance so here it's not expensive it's an inflation play it's a travel play and we got a new executive i've been very lucky investing in businesses that are run and operated by female executives and we have a woman who has been there for i guess seven or eight or nine or ten years at consumer products goods and she is into data and harvesting and figuring out where people are on the mountain, where they're skiing and knowing that we need to have lifts

maybe that makes you feel better but this is in the immortal word of texas philosopher and ross perot. this is where they hit the road. your press conferences, they don't matter. people on the right or left don't care. this is where the rubber hits, lisa murkowski, susan collins, mit romney, do you want state legislatures that are run by trump and be able to pick what votes they want to count in december of 2024. your words mean nothing. it's your actions. if you don't like this joe manchin's voting rights bill. pick up the phone and call joe. i know joe, he's a friend of mine. he would like to talk to you. operators are standing by right now. by the way, if you call in the next 15 minutes, you will be able to get crawfish on joe manchin's both. that's right, limited time, this week only. joe will only listen to your changes and amendments to his voting rights bill. he'll give you the best -- giver me a town. >> charleston. >> we are not talking about south carolina, my friend cht. >> don't give your speeches, it's too late, two years from now. >> don't complain about donald trump and

a party split where the progressives may run their own candidate similar to 1990 two, though ross perotndependent and not progressive, but that sort of scenario. host: you don't think that joe biden runs again? caller: no, i don't. no offense to the guy. god bless him, i just don't think he gets the nomination. i don't think he's confident. i'm sorry. guest: that is a good question. i doubt that there will be a third party of any significance. i think it is more likely that the progressives would take over the infrastructure of the democratic party along the line of the trumpets taking over the -- trumpists taking over the republican party. if i were to look at my crystal ball three years away, a lifetime in politics, it's more likely that you will have a moderate like an 2016 with the republicans in response to trump also i think the real worry that you have in the primaries is the majority of democratic voters go for the moderate candidates, whether it is terry mcauliffe or adams. carter in louisiana. moderate challeners has easily defeated the progressive candidates. their unwillingn