yet these perpetrators are still walking the street and i feel sorry for their parents. i wouldn't want them to go through what i'm going through everyday. believe me, i don't want to stand here, i don't want to be here ever. i don't want to be doing this. we have a lot of mothers and fathers out there that are going through this and that i listen to everyday. we stand together and if it wasn't for those other mothers and fathers, i don't know what where i'd be. i still carry my son's picture here that i have to look at everyday. this is what keeps me strong. it keeps me fighting. i have to do this because if i don't i'd seem like i'm forgetting about my child. it's been seven years -- seven years, everyday i walk out my house and see where my son laid. everyday i blame myself, everyday i think about if i had been there, maybe he'd be alive. and as i say all the time if i had been there i would have took those bullets for my child because my son should have been burying me, not me burying him. i'm at the stage where it's been seven years and i'm still crying and sometime

[inaudible] >> yes, i did interview one of the perpetrators, the family of one of the perpetrators. it is an interesting story and i don't -- i don't want to go into a lot of detail about it. they believed that their mother was so much a perpetrated during the war but a victim of postwar in justice. they pointed the finger at the east germans for arresting them mother, keeping her in jail for life and killing their father. that was their experience. because you cannot blame the children for the sins of the father. their experience was loss of their parents after the war. [inaudible] >> in the early 90s when i went to graduate school. i was exposed to it in the 80s. i was in vienna in 1985 studying german and music, nineteenth century, hadn't gotten to the 20th century yet. and that fat point -- the scandal came out, i was going to some of these meetings or even smaller towns, i was listening to these former austrian soldiers talk about the eastern front and realized -- oh. one last question. [inaudible] >> lack of investigations and trials. there has not been a war crimes trial agai

>> yes, when i did interview one of the perpetrators, the family of one of the perpetrators, it's reallyan interesting story and i don't want -- you've all been so patient i can't go into detail about it, but they believed that their mother was not so much a perpetrator during the war but a victim of postwar injustice. so they really pointed the finger at the east germans for arresting the mother, keeping her in jail for life, and killing their father. that was their experience. because you cannot blame the children for the sins of the father. i mean, their experience was the loss of their parents after the war. >> what made you get into this? [inaudible] >> in the early 90s when went to graduate school, but i was first exposed to it in the '80s. i was in vienna in 1985 studying german and music, 19th century -- i hadn't gone to the 20th century yet. those were the good old days. and at that point the scandal came out and i was going to some of these meetings, or even smaller towns to these pubs and i was listening to these former austrian soldiers talk about the eastern front, and reali

disinterested prosecutors whose only interest is that the perpetrators account for their actions, that victims' interests are protected and that integrity in the charging decisions is really paramount. and i think that this is very important. i think this is actually a breath of fresh air because the recent experiences that i have had as a senator from alaska with the transparency of decisions made within the chain of command i believe leave much to be desired. and, unfortunately, what i have experienced is that in several situations we have learned about these situations that, really, you read the headlines and you say, oh, my gosh, i can't believe this is happening in our military. it makes your stomach turn. but ware not hearing this from -- but we're not hearing fro ths from the chain of command. we're reading it in the newspapers, we're hearing about this in the media. that's our first contact with t -- with it. the 49th missile battalion which operates at fort greeley, very important facility for us in alaska, very important facility for us throughout the nation. last spring it w

and the female perpetrators really focused upon these guards. my book is arguing that the participation is much bigger than that. and we cannot think of the holocaust is confined to these species entirely comedies closed cam settings, although they are very important and very sensitive to this story. all the things that make genocide possible, men and women together. and in these different settings, on their homes, in their villas, on their picnics, in these remote regional outposts. in this includes the settings. once these walls come down, and they were not so closed off for society. there is a lot of nitration from the outside and inside. .. i wanted to show that this was something, you know, much more widespread and varied. [inaudible question] [inaudible question] >> well, you've got -- okay. the reception here. russia, moscow, that part of the military application and the soldiers' homes were set up. this is geographic. [inaudible question] >> absolutely. women were really -- this is one of their main activities featured in a book. i mean,

a single individual may perpetrate the act. but he may be radicalized through a group or the internet or army experience. or what have you. that is a distinction one has to be clear about. the knee-jerk response is just because it is a single individual, he must be a lone wolf. he may not be a terrorist, but he may be a terrorist as well. he may be a covert or overt member of a terrorist organization. some previous interface with an organization. the radicalization process through the organization. some previous travel in terrorist camps. if you look at the boston bomber, one had traveled to central asia. it is hard to call the person who travels a lone wolf terrorist. he was indoctrinated in dagestan, along with the internet. secondly, it has been alluded to by yonah and spike -- the types of lone wolf terrorists. they could be secular, a la timothy mcveigh. they could be religious. the al qaeda guys. it could be single issue, the unabomber. could be criminal, could be idiosyncratic. when you say criminal -- for example the an

not what he likes or doesn't like the victim or values or doesn't value the perpetrator.hose biases is what is affecting the system negatively today. so that is why the world away is not a concern. because investigation proceeds exactly as it ever has been. only difference is who's best to goes on to make the ultimate legal decision. and then last, back to this issue of whether commanders are being held accountable. commanders are held accountable. we have in the underlying bill not only as retaliation to a crime but they will be measured as senator blunt set on whether the command climates are strong. is your command climate strong enough to make sure these rates aren't happening ?-que?-que x isn't strong enough so that retaliation of a victim doesn't happen? and is your command strong enough that that victim that he or she believes that justice is possible? so they will be evaluated. so commanders will be held accountable. i don't think it's appropriate that you're holding a command accountable based on whether he weighs evidence properly. that's a legal judgment. it's

instead, the thrill of pure violence and tonight for the first time, we're going to hear from a perpetrator docked in broad daylight. a man punched at a bus stop who later died. it's happening on sidewalks and on moving buses, too. some in law enforcement believe this is part of a disturbing trend called the knock out game. incidents ranging from london all the way to pennsylvania. jamesed aleburger, a teacher and a popular local blues musician was walking home following a day at work. >> i walked that direction for nine years and i pick up a city newspaper from the rack on the street and was reading an article and proceeded to walk through the allealley, next thi know i was answering questions. >> what happened next, a passing 15-year-old hauls off and punchesed alesberger who goes down hard, smashing his face into the concrete. >> it was violent but i didn't know what happened until i saw the film. >> when you came to, were you in a lot of pain? >> yeah, i was in pain. i was confused. i was bloody. >> and eventually angry. >> my initial anger for that, i had no issues with anything. i lov

having the conducive condition in the environment to perpetrate it in.ng with the external influences. >> i think there are some extremely salient points. there's a lot to be taken from this. let me just add; however, i want to go back to, again, your question number two. can society survive? and i raised baghdad as a model of 0 society that somehow continues to function under the most horrific conditions. and certainly there are others around the world as well. and the question has been raised you know what if it were happening here? the united states is arguably the most resilient society in the world. and yet we're probably one of the societies that is least willing to confront the issue of resilience in the base of actions like this. 9/11 did not destroy the united states. 9/11 was a horrific event, the economic consequences probably got magnified because of our reaction. but none -- the event itself and i say this with all due respect. i lost friends on 9/11 like many people in this room did. 9/11 itself was a very small blip in terms of the america

stories and you learn the devastation it's caused in their lives and then you realize that the perpetrators are free and basically got away with this brutal crime , to be able to give closure to the family is uge -- huge for us. >> reporter: investigators say

they suspect that party headquarters in tiny one city were targeted by the perpetrators the explosions see in tidy one occurred nine days after a car crash that killed five people near tiananmen square nhk world's kuranda toggle reports from beijing. chinese all regions and is keeping the peace. there were people in the council remained constant. i love the buggies been on the internet and i'm worried if you get to the majors should be taken to ensure safety. on the shelf chinese authorities claimed contrast last week was a attack. organized by illegal separate system. did you turn in to prevent any further violence and have tightened security nationwide

and then, of course, the fort hood shooting that nidal hasan perpetrated at the time.again, i think when we talk about the lone wolf, of the individual acting on -- incidentally, we do have an increasing number of women who are also involved. we can look at the nonpolitical motivations and then we can look at the political motivations. so ultimately i think what we will discuss today i basically the two sides that we have to consider, but mostly the political side. and we can spend a semester at least to discuss -- i'm not going to do it now, but i think it would be useful in terms of some context to discuss this phenomenon which is not very well understood, but we have to keep always in mind that terrorists are not born. they are created by various political, social, economic environments. in other words, the lone wolf terrorist don't appear from outer space. they are a part of our societies, and the subject of the article and social and economic ideologies, and their environment. in other words, many of them shared values through technology, through the website, and

including some of the worst perpetrators but of course the perpetrators, the few that i have in the book, i know about them because francis document i showed you. and johan was arrested by the west germans the secretary who was killing the children but she was acquitted twice. despite all the evidence. for a couple of reasons, first of all they didn't take -- interviewed the prosecutor because i was curious and have the same question. as he explained it to me he believed she did what she did that he couldn't enter the courtroom actually and get a conviction because it was based on survivor testimony which is not taken as seriously as the hard evidence documentation. so this is where it's tricky because the male perpetrators, you can reconstruct particular units that were assigned to particular killing actions and put a man in the unit. with many of these female perpetrators outside the camp system you can't get them on a camp guard list. if they are honor regular personnel listed as a secretary so these women committing these crimes, they are not following orders. they are doing this on

just that these particular victims of the bombing are the low cost victims in the global jihadi perpetrated by h.s.b.c. j.p. morgan and goldman sachs and that is becoming as you wipe out the low cost victims of financial terrorism by h.s.b.c. and barclay's and j.p. morgan you're going to have to start targeting people more in your own country to see what's happening in the u.k. or the u.s. financial terrorism like we saw r.b.s. the world bank of scotland a couple down a southport were financially terrorized by osborne cameron and royal bank of scotland and that's the point best the dirty war the dirty wars dirty money it's dirty money war so that's why the film at the end of the day lacked a lot of it because it failed to get into the real dirty financial aspect of what these mass extrajudicial murders was all about the money you know it to think that it's about some kind of a moral deficiency by some group of people is to not understand that sense of morality doesn't trade on the new york stock exchange there is. no morality there never will be more reality and so you can't even start from

is because all too often the blame is placed on the victim rather than on the perpetrator. that really has to change. >> are you quite positive about change? optimistic. but there is a lot of work still to be done. it is difficult to believe in is still we are citing so horrific. but we are seeing little signs of progress. it is a long battle. it is not enough to get a law put in place. whether it has to be done on a daily basis -- to raise awareness to make sure the laws implemented. , thankerine from fidh you for joining us. that is it for now. we will have more news for you coming up. we stay with us on "france 24." --in the french football, bundesliga -- japanese trike or made it 3-0. it gave bremen hope that it was too little, too late. >> successful stint at the top of the dutch. 11 minutes before the break, awarded a penalty. teenager from chelsea converted a penalty. referee -- not kick. -- spot kick. enrage the home fans. the game was stopped for five minutes, angering eagles coach. when the players returned, buried being spot kick to make it 2-0. closing the deal

just that these particular victims of the bombing are the low cost victims in the global jihadi perpetrated by h.s.b.c. j.p. morgan and goldman sachs and that is becoming as you wipe out the low cost victims of financial terrorism by h.s.b.c. and barclay's and j.p. morgan you're going to have to start targeting people more in your own country to see what's happening in the u.k. or the u.s. financial terrorism like we saw r.b.s. world bank of scotland a couple down a sigh. or were financially terrorized by osborne cameron and royal bank of scotland and that's the point that's the dirty war the dirty wars it's dirty money it's dirty money war so that's why the film at the end of the day lacked a lot of it because it failed to get into the real dirty financial aspect of what these mass extrajudicial murders it's all about the money you know it to think that it's about some kind of a moral deficiency by some group of people is to not understand that sense more ality doesn't trade on the new york stock exchange there is no morality there never will be more reality and so you can't even start fro

the perpetrators are still out there and they are able to recommit these horrific crimes again. aryana clay, here's the last story. she graduated from the u.s. naval academy, she joined the 345r7bs. she deployed to iraq in 2008, following her return from iraq, she was selected to serve at the marine barracks in washington, a very prestigious post. it's right down the street from here. at the marine barracks she was subjected to constant call harassment. when she tried to report it, you know what the chain of command told her? deal with it. that's like telling a little child who is being abused somewhere, deal with it. that's the culture that my colleagues want to keep, deal with it? no, it's a crime. help 2 person -- help the person, go after the perpetrator, get a trained prosecutor to find out if it's true and if it's true, prosecute to the hilt. in august, 2010, that's two years later, she was gang raped by a senior marine officer and his friend who broke into her home. aryana, despite all the warnings, reported her assault but a marine corps investigation decided she had wel

the foot soldier, so these types had emerged and we were expanding our understanding of perpetration of the holocaust with these kinds of nuances and the similar kind of development was not happening vis-a-vis how we understood women's role. that was something i thought about and thought, well, is there a female version of an iceman? is there a female version of an ordinary man? is there a female version where women put in uniform or put in to kind of killing units or all the things i had read about in male perpetrators. i started to question what extent women might fit to the category. i went back to the standard documentation that we've been using. that was my review of the literature. then i went back to the archives to some of the things we had been using and investigative material even the neuron berg material. i tarted to notice that women were called to testify a lot. they were brought in. they were very instrumental, for instance, at the trials. i started to realize, well, these women are coming in to testify against their male bosses or even their spases. they have at lough

and then of course, the most , nidal malikng perpetrated at the time. when we talk about the lone wolf , the individual acting on his or her own. there is an increasing number of women who are also involved. we can look at the nonpolitical motivation and then we the political motivation. think what we i are going to discuss today are that wey the two sides have to consider. but mostly the political side. least spend a semester at discussing the various trends. we're not going to do that. i think it would useful in terms of context to discuss the phenomenon which is not very well understood. thatve to keep in mind terrorists are not born, they are created by various political, social, economic environments. in other words, the lone wolf terrorists do not appear from outer space. they are part of our societies. they are subject to the political, social, and economic ideologies. and their religious environments. many of them share values through technology, through websites and so forth. a cell operates -- some operate on one basis, and others operate on m

nas, the attorney general, but we had an election a couple years ago, and the calls in part, he perpetrated this myth, he was re-elected. >> and speaking of myths being perpetrated and this administration responding in peculiar ways, marilyn tavvenner, the centers for medicaid and medicaid services basically telling the congressmen of the united states to go to hell. she would not respond as to how many people had been enrolled under healthcare.gov. we have no idea because this administration obviously has ordered -- this president has ordered agency heads and to sto congress of the united states. >> yeah, lou. and it is amazing coming from someone who promised to be the most transparent administration since the dinosaurs roamed the earth. and you have fast and furious and benghazi and the nsa and the irs and now the obama care rollout where committees of congress, an equal branch of government that has a constitutional responsibili to provide oversight can't get what all to be available which is how many people have enrolled? >> absolutely. conforming to the administration's method of oper

environment to perpetrate it in. i think these are all salient points. there is a lot to be taken from this. back todd, i want to go question number two. i raised baghdad as a model of a society that continues to function under horrific conditions. there are others around the world as well. the question has been raised, what if that were happening here. the united states is argued with the most resilient society in the world. we are not capable of looking at this. 9/11 did not destroy the united states. it was a horrific event. is wereomic have to >> magnified because of our reaction. theevent itself, and i say respect, 9/11ll itself was a very small blip in terms of the american economy and america's ability to do the things that america needs to do. yet, it dominates every conversation we have had in the last decade for good reason. don's wife is british. and her people survived the blitz. they survived two world wars and they soldier on. they survived the irish. at the end of the day, as a nation we need to be pre

but by the way, a government perpetrated the perpetrator. >> fannie and freddie have suffered a lot inms of the reputation. taking money from me. >> regulations imposed under reagan at thisavings and loan crisis. you wonder. neil: which would you choose? your reputation is merged for every last penny youad taken away. >> my reputation. not addressing how the banks are to be held accountable for this under the rules of or implemented. neil: are yo advocating that they get a complete care? >> they were victims. govement got into e housing market. seeing the same thing happen with health care. they get into the market, diort prices and the market. do you want to blame people for writing off? neilthank y. a lot of this. they found a way to pack -- package it. >> the only sold to freddie and fannie. if it was a true free-market there would have never existed. the fact that that government is going afte them, their ability the pay. >> thisury has held them accountable. >> let's go back to what i said at the outset. i will go ahead and take the lead that there should be some culpability, b to

the confidence in an objective review of someone who doesn't know the perpetrator, doesn't know the victim doesn't exist. >> reporter: gillibrand seeks to remove the chain of command. >> you can't train your way out of this problem. there are 23,000 command climates that were not strong enough, that didn't insure justice, that created fear of retaliation. that's the problem. without creating transparency and accountability, without saying the decider doesn't know the victim or the perpetrator, there is no bias. the senator's bill has the support of many democrats and a significant number of republicans are on board as well in opposition and saying that gillibrand's reforms going too far are a number of key democrats whose votes are critical in this, senator claire mmccaskill of missouri. >> we'll be creating more problems than we're solving if we break the chain of command. >> reporter: she wants to keep the rights in the military but offered her own legislation that would require a civilian review if a commander declines to prosecute a case and make retaliation against those who issue rep

and we want to insure that the perp trailers are held -- perpetrators are held accountable. now in addition, i believe that if we want to solve this problem, the provisions in this bill that people have worked together on are very, very strong. i want to thank the chairman of the armed services committee and the ranking member for their work together. we are going to pass in this chamber unprecedented reforms that insure that the military understands this is not an issue anymore that can be left in the closet. this is not an issue that can be quietly spoken of where victims feel that they can't come forward. that these reforms in this bill are very tough, they support victims, they hold commanders accountable, and they make sure that we do not see what we have seen in the past, things like commanders overturning the verdicts. that will be done under this bill, and that is not allowed anymore if this bill passes on the floor. so i simply come to the floor today to say there is so much that we have agreed upon that is going to address this issue in the military. and for all of

. >> i would say to the perpetrator, we're coming for you. >> two suspects are booked in the jail and one of them is talking. >> he's hunting. looking for the next victim. >> the recently arrived inmate catches the attention of staff and other inmates. >> he's out there shaking his wang at everybody which is not something you do to a bunch of eyes in orange. >> i don't rob and steal. a swipe and a swindle. >> then a father of five is headed to prison but now his pregnant girlfriend visit with haunting news from home. >> i got bruises and scratches all over my back and it's not anybody in the house with me. what is it? >>> tulsa, oklahoma lies at the intersection of two of the nation's best known symbolic locations. it's where tornado alley meets the bible belt. >> can't buy alcohol on sundays. it's that kind of town. 2:00 in the morning, 4:00 in the morning you'll be hard pressed to find something other than an all night restaurant that's open. for some of us that's okay. that's tulsa. still small enough to be home. >> are you all right? >> yeah. >> all right. you know we have a chapl

unfortunately, the only message that kids get is from the perpetrator. a secret and you will have numerous victims. perpetrators don't stop after one victim. >> that's the case with you. your book is so compelling and heartbreaking. and you detail starting at six years old, your friend's uncle began to sexually abuse you. why didn't you speak out. >> i was told i know where you live and i will come and get you. and your parents will not love you if you tell. all threats of brain washing kept me silent. >> you recommend kids young as kindergarteners all the way through school get help from the public schools and explaining what is safe touch and how to report safe touch. people are not comfortable with kindergarteners not comfortable with sexual abuse. >> you talk about your kids. don't look for the lost puppy. 93 percent of the time your children are hurt by somebody you love and trust. if you are afraid of the issue, read the introduction of my third book and so why it is so crucial to talk to kids about this. there are easy ways to do it. don't be afra

, which i dealt with last week, are perpetrators and aggressors, so i wanted to work on that so i'm working with kids and with aspergers and autism and one thing that struck me is we need to be able on the flip side, so i'm now writing to kids when you are the one that has more of a thick skin, whatever you want to call it, how do you interact with kids who are more sensitive? just how do you do that? how do you recognize the signs when you're around somebody that does calibrate and has a different definition and what bothers them and what doesn't and if we can do that and i'm asking autistic kids and asperger's kids and normal kids and what are the things that trigger these things and what can we do and i want you to know what i am doing right now and i am working with boys and i finished the porn section and honest i'm doing all of it and why do girls send naked pictures and this week we're creating concrete strategies and scenarios so they can picture what to do when they are up either way against these dynamics and if we work together this way and really name it. sometimes kids with asp

the perpetrators are often relatives including immediate and extended family members and most often the attackers are male. the child has often forced silence which leads to mental trauma. the book an unimaginable act, chronicles one brave young woman's story and her fight to help are victims. erin marin, i know you were abused when you were six years old by the uncle of one of your best friends and a few years later by one of your cousins and the abuse went open for years before you were able to say something. despite all the pain you went through, why couldn't you talk about it, why couldn't you tell your family? >> i didn't speak up because as a child i was always told, this is our little secret, no one will believe you, i know where you live, i'll come hurt you, so i kept it a secret. where i didn't believe you will be believed and you will keep this a secret. >> you said you spent hundreds of hours with school psychologists and social workers,. >> they often just say the kid's going through a phase. she'll outgrow it and that's what they did with me. they said i was going through a

>> they have to be prosecuting these perpetrators accurately. and it's almost con des sending to have this approach towards women. if you get drunk you might get raped. if i get drunk a lot of things might happen but that is not my responsibility for getting raped. >> of women who are raped 72% of them admittedly say they were intoxicated when it happened. so i do think you have to look at the link -- >> if you drink you should expect to be raped? >> no, but you should be warned if you are getting very, very drunk, you should be worried about when you are walking home alone getting mugged or raped or -- >> getting hit by a car >> exactly. >> and are we giving them a message? >> there ought to be zero tolerance for this on any college in society. there ought to be zero tolerance but there was a coyersening of our college campuses and a coursening of the culture. i don't think it's sad but i do not find it ovally surprising we are seeing the numbers. >> and what do you do about college campuses and authorities cannot be held responsible, i should

was a conspiracy even nixon said on tape that the warren commission was the greatest hoax ever perpetrated look i could go on but i think you get the point unfortunately we'll probably never know what happened to j.f.k. or his brother r f k but we do have a strong reason to suspect that the elements that led to his death involve people with the capacity to not only carried out a covered up the military industrial complex that eisenhower warned about and that kennedy inherited ended up swallowing the presidency and redefining the role of government as it stands today all rooted in something that kennedy warned about long ago. he said the great and. and the truth is very often not the lie deliberate contrived and dishonest but the myth persistent persuasive and on realistic belief in myth allow the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. you know this one thing that i still can't understand it and i don't want to ruin your good mood but i have this one question with gordie doing this all for you that you had everything they respect and so that you give them all up in the senate