roles and responsibilities of the two departments might be delineated enough for projects that go perplans, but when a developer misrepresents the plans or goes beyond the scope of the permit, which of the departments is taking charge of these issues to rectify them? planners may think it's not their job to fix plans that are not accurate. enforcement -- this is my own personal one because i have felt for a long time planning has dropped the ball on enforcement and says well, we'll go to building inspection. well, when you look at building inspection, building inspection's rules are so vague, they're subject to almost any interpretation whatsoever. so you have a situation i see where neither agency is able to really work with the other. >> secretary ionin: thank you, mr. witting. >> president hillis: thank you, mr. witting. >> hi. good morning. i don't know if you read what was in the packet that i sent. i sent to you a packet, but you know, there were those e-mails back from january 2015, and i didn't intend those to say, like, oh, my god, this has been going on forever, 'cause it has bee