we use every excuse we can to play the rick perry oops moment.m to be having a little bit of an oops insofar as he's going to take a sharpie out and wipe away as much of the funding for obama care as possible and is asking for $100 million to implement parts of actually obama care. >> well, let me come in a little bit in the middle of this. i think on the one hand you see how weird the position is and on the other there's a point perry can legitimately maker is. peggy noonan wrote a piece saying this right here is the reason people hate obama care. the word this linked it to a community first choice program, a program in medicaid to help people who are disabled get care at home db at home -- instead of being put into a nursing home or an outside institution. this is one of the things in obama care is a very big deal for the affected population. noonan was upset about some edge case with someone whose guardian as a caregiver and it turned out there's nothing there. this is precisely the program, the community first choice program that perry is end

please welcome chef adam perry lang. hello, adam. living in our parking lot, making your smoking meat, which is insane. i have to say it has been a real struggle not to gain 800 pounds this summer. >> the best advertisement you could ever do. >> jimmy: and are the flies supposed to help? helps the flavor? what are we making? >> i'm going to show you about beef, this is the absolute best cut of beef on the animal for barbecue. >> jimmy: what cut is that? >> that is plate short ribs. they're expensive, but worth it. i like the short rib, like a go-to brand for me. let me show you what we do. >> jimmy: please do. >> serious barbecue, i do things that are a little above and beyond, i make a little mustard moisturizer. >> jimmy: the mustard moisturizer? and the cows love it? >> they do. >> jimmy: keeps them looking young. there we go. >> season it a little bit. >> jimmy: you do it from here, right? as if god is seasoning it himself. >> all right. and that is really it. you know, we're going to put it right into the barbecue pit. >> jimmy:

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perry. (applause) >> our speaker this morning, the former secretary of defense william perry, i first met when he was the deputy secretary of defense, and he and mrs. perry came to korea where i was the c5j5 and i was assigned to escort them around. and i had a lot of those kinds of duties while i was assigned to korea. but it was the most pleasant experience i had and i say that honestly, to get to know these two people. and he then became our secretary of defense. and many of us that have served thought that he was one of the best secretary of defenses we've ever had. he's currently a senior fellow at the hoover institute and a freeman foley institute of international studies. he is the michael and barbara bavarian professor at stanford university and serves as co-director of the nuclear risk reduction initiative and preventive defense project. please help me welcome our speaker this morning, former secretary of defense william perry. (applause) >> what a pleasure it is to be aboard this s

tim tooten joins us live from perry hall to explain. tim? since as been 340 days student walked into perry hall high school and shot a classmate. new security measures are in place here and across the district. students and errands can expect to see new security measures in place at perry hall high school. from the time they are allowed inside the building and the main office, all county schools have been equipped with a system that will allow staff to match a person's drivers license with a national database. >> it will print a rather large id they can place on their shirts. as you go through the building, it will have the name, the location where they are going, the time they came in. >> the school system has spent $4 million equipping elementary schools with equipment. in some cases, police will be able to monitor cameras. besides the new measures, the school resource officers will continue to use wants where they where they suspect there are problems. those were issued last year after the shooting. they will not change much in the coming

-- >> just briefly, perry, lying is charitable.also looks like perjury. i'll use that word as well. >> when you're in front of congress, you're supposed to swear under oath. ari is right. those comments don't seem very truthful to me. >> perry, the president is going to do whatever he does for the remainder of his administration. but it strikes me this is going to be a big topic of conversation in the 2016 presidential race and what our next president is going to do to make changes to this program. in particular on the republican side of the ledger, we've already seen a real schism between what i'll call the chris christie republicans and the rand paul republicans about the nsa, about the program, and what sort of reform should be made. do these sorts of revelations continue to cause that divide and that rift within the republican party itself? >> krystal, i'd say there's a divide in both parties about this. hillary clinton announced this week she's going to give a speech about national security and striking the right balance next

i think he's using the obama model, as perry said.nk he's -- why build up a record that can then be used against you. run as soon as you have the opportunity. i think that's what's happening. >> and go back even to the convention. he was one of the best-received speakers on the floor at the republican national convention. he has this style, this sort of preacher-like cadence. he wears the face mic or whatever like he is madonna. he does have a lot of that charisma. it goes back to what we were talking about in the last segment with the government shutdown idea. he's not well liked among the senate. he's well liked among the people he's talking to in early presidential states. mitch mcconnell, not a friend to this guy. a lot of these people that try to get deals done, the john mccains of the republican party don't like him and that creates this tense environment. >> so far we've likened him to madonna and president obama. i wonder, not being able to get a deal done in the senate, not being cooperative with mitch mcconnell, it seems lik

nick, sally, meet my fast friend perry the peregrine falcon. hi, perry. hi, perry. hi, everybody. we're flying! this is amazing! (laughing) fly, nick! fly, sally! follow the leader, sally. (laughing) both: woo-hoo! my turn to lead, nick. (both laughing) both: woo-hoo! yay! nick, sally, now you're going as fast as a galloping horse. wow, flying is faster. isn't this fun? peregrine falcons go fastest when we dive. that's why i brought you up so high. sally: we are super high. perry: but we still need one more thing. huh? what's that? food! that's why i dive. to catch food. i think i've got something to nibble. try this, oh! ooh, yum! go, perry! (screeching) i've never seen anyone as fast as that. he's going as fast as... a peregrine falcon. that's as fast as the zoom-o-meter goes. ooh, ah! all: hooray! good job, perry. great catch. yeah! tasty snack, cat. your turn, nick and sally. okay. first? you look for food. you got it, sally. more food, comin' up! perry, you must have super strong eyes to see food from way up here. i sure do. when i see food-- you go fast and catch it. that's

. >>> katy perry roars.he morning after the vmas it's time for the gmas. >> good morning, america, it's katy perry. >>> and good morning, america. what a show we've got ahead of us. you see it right there, the gmas, the morning after the vmas. look at the crowd we have. have deejay kiss on top of the hard rock cafe. all charged up about that. >> i think they started last night and haven't stopped. still going out there on times square. katy perry did close out the vmas, on the stage under the brooklyn bridge, the city is the background, unforgettable performance. >> yes. >> not to mention the reunion that blew the roof off. 'n sync, yes, we predicted it. they were back together and here is the picture. all five of them right after the performance. we're going to tell you what they thought of the night. and i know we all thought it was terrific. >>> right now, let's get right to the wildfire raging out west in california. take a look at these arresting pictures of the inferno around yosemite right now. abc's

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you've got perry asking the obama administration for $100 million.r rick perry from texas. $100 million from a program created part of obama care. it's almost as if there's much in the law that republicans would like if only they felt able to give the legislation a chance. if republicans could get beyond their broad side opposition, jeffrey, is there a lot that they agree with in the bill? >> well, there's a lot that republicans 10 or 20 years ago would agree with because a lot of what was in this law came from proposals from the republicans. this is a bit odd. the program perry is trying to buy into doesn't have anything to do with what most of us would think of when we think obama care. it's not about a medicaid expansion, or tax credits for people who don't get insurance at work to get cheaper health insurance. this is about people who have developmental disabilities who now have to go into nursing homes to get treated. what this law is trying to do is make it easier for them to get cared for at home. this is an idea that the bush administration a

thanking god for the existence of rick perry. (laughter) well, don't worry, australia's got you covered there, too. meet the liberal party's jaymes diaz and his six-point plan to stop illegal boat immigration. >> we have a plan, a six-point plan to make sure that we do stop the boats. >> could you run through the six points? >> well, i can run through the details of the points. the main thing is -- >> the six points. the six points are? >> well -- one of the points is -- the key point will be stopping the boats. (laughter) >> john: of course it is! point one of his six-point stop the boat plan is naturally stop the boats. (laughter and applause) now, look, in america -- here in america the reporters probably would have left it there thinking "job done, the man has been completely humiliated." in australia they only have one month of this electoral buffet so this reporter-- how should i put it-- he tossed another question on the barbie. >> what were the other five points? (laughter) >> well, look, it is under the labour party -- >

let's bring in perry bacon, who's covering barack obama for "the washington post."ow you doing, buddy? >> good to see you guys. >> let's start with the surveillance piece of this. the politics on spying and potentially defunding these programs has been shifting rapidly. the president is also speaking, of course, to a large section of the country that is still very upset, both not only about what edward snowden did, but want a the idea we can't get at him. what are the politics here? >> the politics of this, like you said, the nsa programs themselves have become very controversial. you had a vote a couple weeks ago in congress where the majority of democrats voted in a rebuke to the president to defund these programs. the vote failed mainly because republicans were with president obama and aligned with him. that said, i think these issues are a little separate. americans are still very concerned about embassies closing, national security. look at the polls. most americans support these nsa programs. so i think the politics there cut a couple different ways. it's not

rick perry suffers from a severe case of foot in mouth disease. there ain't no cure. >> john: oklahoma to "viewpoint." in today's edition of so that happened, the gift that keeps on giving, rick perry is back. i'm not going to make a bunch of tired rick perry jokes because it distorts political discourse and i forget the other thing. here's the clip. >> there are many other states that embrace those conservative values, the approach that we've taken over the years. i'm in one today in florida. you look at south carolina, you look at florida. i'm in one of those states that reflect those today. in louisiana. i got that. >> john: it's not easy to lose an entire crowd of people who vote for bobby jindal. can we, can we please have a serious discussion in this country about a very important issue and that is rick perry control. how many more public tragedies do the american people have to witness. every time rick perry shoots his mouth off, this man is killing the g.o.p.'s chances offerer getting back into power. it used to be don't mess with texas. n

the help, precious, tyler perry movies. the passy black best friend. angry black woman.he sassy black friend who is bringing down the house. what is the reality versus the main stream media perception? >> i want to echo the point that it is really important for us to name. when we began we were talk about black powers for black men hashtag, and that was created by jamila lemieux. but what you have pointed to is the inability to see black women as complex and humane. so we don't get complex representations, we get these caricatures, and they are not just happening from white directors or stories that center white women as the help, but tyler perry frequently does that. i have argued that his movies are very much about redeeming black men, and they do that on the backs of black women. and black women are always asked to take a back seat because the issues that black men face are seen as more urgent. there are really high rates of intimate partner violence and homicide for black women in the community as well, that rival the number of black men being killed by other black m

you know, they -- i think perry capital has been in the stock for some time.3g position for them, meaning we didn't necessarily know how large it was, and they claim potential turnaround at the company like so many others had initially when mr. ullman came back in, but you're right. they are clearly aligned at least with ackman's beliefs, though i'm not sure they necessarily think that this board room battle that you've been reporting on is a good thing for the company at all. what's interesting here, scott, you don't have the opportunity for shareholders to have their voice heard in any sort of a vote, and so you are seeing ackman, both in the board and as the largest shareholder and now perry, and when you add it all up between ackman and perry, you get to a pretty sizable outstanding shares of the company. >> david, this will be one that keeps on delivering, too. you know there's going to be more to this drama, right, after you had this big board room brawl develop yesterday late in the afternoon and really continue today with -- with a bit of a back and fo

. >>> katy perry does something she's never done before. and jimmy buffett caught himself a new friend. "early today" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "early today" for friday, august 23rd. >> good morning. i'm paige hopkins. while many of us are preparing for the weekend, firefighters in northern california are battling a rapidly growing wildfire near yosemite national park. it's called the rim fire and it grew exponentially overnight now covering about 54,000 acres up from 16,000. and just 24 hours earlier, highway 120 year yosemite was shut down but the park itself remains open and mostly smoke-free. on thursday, governor jerry brown issued a state of emergency and that declaration frees up money and resources for the 1800 firefighters on the ground. so far nine structures have been damaged. 2500 remain threatened. >>> now overseas to syria where more horrific images are emerging of what syrian rebels are calling a mass chemical attack. but the claims still not verified. >> if these reports are true it would be an outrageous and f

she was reelected in 2012 despite rick perry and every major republican officeholder campaigning against her. her main issues are economic development, education and family issues. she was named pressman legislator of the year in 2009. -- freshman legislator of the year in 2009. she apparently likes the filibuster, because prior to the one that got her national attention in 2011, she staged a public election. that filibuster temporarily blocked the cut and set the stage for the legislature restoring most of the money in 2013. she has been mentioned as a possible and senatorial candidates in texas. -- gubernatorial candidates in texas. we're hoping she may tip the cards for what the future might hold. please help us give a warm welcome to senator wendy davis. [applause]

the first candidate is governor of tax, rick perry.iz. >> i would say if you want a vaginal probe in every problem, rick perry is your guy. >> i do. i think rick perry is already running a smarter campaign. that campaign of bring your business to texas might be dishonest, but makes him look like a business leader. i think he's going to run. >> there's three reasons, i can't think of the third reason why, but he's so dopey. the republican's need to have a smart candidate, and he looks so presidential, and they should have him lip civic for four years. >> i this i that was reagan's strategy for the second material. are you a fan? >> i think he's very dangerous and fundamentally a little megachurch for me. >> i would agree. i would describe him as a masterpiece of the pharmacists's art. >> but you know what, god bless him. >> indeed. >> everybody you're going to pull out of that cup is going to say that god chose him and they lose. >> all these people are going to say god made them run and that's proof that god loves us and answer us to l

perry? >> the iraq comparison is not accurate in one point, and i think the president is getting at that. we had 100,000 troops in iraq and at various points. he's talking about zero. the firm numbero. what he's trying to do, i think it goes back to what he said last august. he said chemical weapons used is a red line to him, and he's trying to enforce that. he used the phrase "international norms" five or six times yesterday. jay carney has used it. they're not trying to change the regime. it's a case of the u.s., the french, the british believe the use of chemical weapons has to be punished in some way. that's why when boehner says, what are we trying to accomplish here? it's not clear we're trying to accomplish anything other than to enforce the idea that the president articulated last august. >>> as always, perry bacon, karen tumulty, thank you. >>> i want to bring in chris murphy from connecticut. you called on the president to exercise restrained in syria. why is that? >> well, two rea

look at this in perry hall. 77. so this is unheard of for this time of the year. and actually in maryland. this is what you see when you are heading into southern florida. 77 in perry hall. 73 in chestertown and 75 for a dew point in annapolis and 73 in glen bernie. as we look at cockeysville at 71. temperatures are still warm this morning as well. close to 80 in baltimore city and 77 in perry hall and more of the same in chestertown. temperatures will be on the warm side throughout the rest of today. >>> usher is due in court today plus high stakes legal battle for apple. and the 448 million dollar power ball jackpot. this morning we have new information on one of the winning tickets. wouldn't that-- >> reporter: wouldn't that be nice to win? no delays on interstate 70 at columbia pike. i will show you what the other main lines look like and have the greatest drive times coming up >>> new this morning dozens of employees at the u.s. consulate in pakistan have been ordered to leave because of a specific threat to the mission. a u.s. official says the action is a p

so that, look, it's getting by the legislature but you, governor perry, can still veto it.hey focused their attention. >> what is perry saying now that this information has been made public. >> the governor's spokesman said that the governor listens to a wide range of voices on this. he didn't really say whether the retailers were a key constituency in the reason he vetoed the bill but there's a good chance that i think governor perry was probably not going to back this bill whether the retailers wrote in or not. >> as we mentioned, macy's and kroger's, the food chain, grocery store very popular in my home state obviously. what are they saying regarding this boycott especially when you think about who mostly shops at these stores? >> right. i mean, that is part of the reason this group, progress texas, is doing a boycott, because they say these groups try to present themselves as very woman friendly, very mom friendly, very family friendly and then they are saying they're against this equal pay bill. texas says it relied on the texas retailers association, this business gro

we are at 79 close to 80 right now in baltimore city. 79 in perry hall and 77 in chestertown and with the humidity the temperatures we feel like we are at 84 degrees right now in baltimore city and 85 in perry hall. the 7-day forecast looks like this as we begin to dry things out as we head towards the end of the weekend. let's go over to megan. >> all right. lynette, the 80s i like it even if it's humid. all right. one thing we are excited about here is the preston mitchum junior back to school drive. and it happens every year and it's something abc2 is really proud to be a part of. we are partnering with the young school and basically what this does is help kids in our community. every year we talk about shopping and getting the kids what they need to get back to school. here's examples of things that have been dropped off at abc2. you can see binders erasers and notebooks, backpacks not incredibly expensive things but kids in the community don't have the money often to get back to school and have some of the things. so why not make it possible. it's easy to do. next time you go to

we are talking about 77 in perry hall right now. and 74 in baltimore city and 73 for a dew point in glen burnie and 57 annapolis. manchester 73 and more of the same in chestertown and also elkton. the actual temperatures coming in at 79 degrees in baltimore city. 77 in perry hall annapolis chesterton but with the humidity, this is what it feels like already this morning. it feels like we are in the 80s. the mid-80s in baltimore city and perry hall and low 80s in annapolis and chestertown. and as we go into the afternoon, what it's going to feel like we will feel more like we are in the 90s so if you want to play golf be prepared for the hot weather feeling like but also be prepared for a chance for a shower or thunderstorm as we head into the lunchtime with the temperature coming in at 85. but feeling more like 90, 95. let's check the traffic now with lauren. >> reporter: well, i have an update on 895. a disabled car along the southbound lanes at harbor tunnel has been cleared. delays dissipated and the fort mchenry tunnel is okay.

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schafer, a senior fellow and external communications director at the center for advanced studies and perry bacon, political editor at the grio. colonel, i feel like there's a number of variables in the situation. help me understand what you think are the more important dynamics and what dynamics, if any, i'm completely missing out on. i think we have to consider the impact of iraq/afghanistan, that the country is in a sort of war fatigue. i think we have to consider russia, assad's key ally, as somebody holding us back from acting. i think we have to consider the rebels are not exactly people we may want to be working with. we don't know who the next dictator will be if we support them. also, just being the world's policemen has not gotten us as far as we'd like it to. what dynamics are a part of this? >> all of the above. there's a no-win scenario. it's really nowhere to go. the idea is we've decided to do something. what should that be? this is -- now, we have interceded in other places. we have invaded a country, panama. a successful interdiction to prevent genocide. this situation is c

the board struck back one of the largest shareholders, perry capital through its support of ackman andoward schultz took the other side on cnbc and scolded the hedge fund manager. how will this play out, and can the company survive? let's get in the money right now and any way you slice it it's an extraordinary story being aired on tv in the media, in the public spotlight for all to see. >> and it's not a good thing, not good for the shareholders who are not big hedge fund titans. yesterday with the news they put a time frame on it. should have a new ceo in 30 to 45 days. that's also not good. if you get close to that time line, and there's no real names bandied about. that's a problem for investors. the stock can continue to sink. we've seen what's going on in the credit markets, not good. i mean, the story is becoming very distressed kind of quickly, and you don't really want to be an individual investor trying to get in the middle of these big guys. >> anything that ackman is involved in right now that isn't playing itself out in a very ugly way in the media? i mean, every story is

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governors like rick perry. ken cuccinelli said if you really believe no one is beyond redemption, then we need to stop throwing away that key. toure, to your point on the changes that have already been made in the crack and coke sentencing disparity, that has already saved us $.5 billion, 16 years in prison, and not to mention the moral failings that previously were there in that sentencing disparity. there still is a sentencing disparity, i should point out. >> not even mentioning the cost of all of this, which we're spending more than $40 billion a year. the more facts that we get on this, you have even republicans saying this doesn't make a lot of sense. but going back to stop and frisk, because there are two components. you have the mayor and the nypd commissioner saying, look, we have our facts to suggest that over the last 11 years, we have nearly 8,000 fewer deaths because of this. the problem is, they're going to have to make the correlation. you often say this, toure. stop and frisk is down, crime is d