they're as separate as church and state under a perry administration. [cheers and applause] nation, a wise man once said, "everybody shut up. stephen's talking." this is tip of the hat, wag of the finger. [cheers and applause] nation, i love the story of the garden of eden. it gives me comfort to know that every time i sin, it's really eve's fault. [laughter] boy am i gonna blame some stuff on you this weekend! [laughter] -6- that's why i'm so disturbed by a new movement to break-up the bible's most famous couple. npr's steve inskeep explains. >> for many evangelicals, a historical adam and eve is a critical part of their theology, but now some conservative religious scholars are saying publically that they can no longer believe it. >> stephen: no adam and eve? no apple? no tasteful leaf thongs? and all because these so-called conservative scientists say "there is no way we can be traced back to a single couple...given the genetic variation of people today." oh, the genetic variation needs more than two people? fine, they had a freaky three-way with the

roughly 1 in 3 of the top perry donors had business interests that secured grants, tax subsidies or project approvals under his administrationsn't it? here's an example. perry's number 2 donor got to build a natural waste facility in the state of texas. the texas environmental commission objected to the facility. they were overruled, my friends, by çperry's political appointe. a perry spokesman says it's all in the public's interest. according to the latest fox news poll, the public, well, at least the right wing is very interested in this guy. the texas governor is the top pick among republican primary voters to take on president obama. he leads unemployed father of five mitt romney by eight points, and if you needed further proof of perry's hurting bachmann's chances at winning the nomination, just look at this. she's at 4%. ouch. joining me now is jim moore. he's a huffington post contribute tore and author of the book "why rick perry will make america miss george w. bush." thanks for your time tonight, mr. moore. the closer we look, the dirtier it gets, it seems like. this guy is all about favors. do you think he would

. >>> rick perry today slammed the middle east policies of the obama administration. perry met with jewish leaders in new york city today and pledged his support for israel. the texas governor said america fumbled our greatest opportunity for regime change. >> iranian citizens were marching on tyran in the green revolution in 2009, america was wasting precious time on a naive policy of outreach. >> perry said the administration should have provided those disdents with moral support. >>> in iowa today bachmann demanded that president obama stop iran's president from attending the united nations gathering in new york this week. the iranian president arrived in new york today and is expected to address the general assembly on thursday. >> this administration tried and failed to do -- >> while campaigning, bachmann toured a meat packing company. >>> hundreds of job seekers attended a job fair. it was held at the south san francisco. one organizer we spoke to said there was something there for everyone. >> we have technical jobs here today. we have engineering jobs, we have

i doubt you'll ever get a guy of geithner's quality in a perry administration. y do they want perry in there? why are they leading all the republican polls, a guy who really could be a little more confidence building? i'm not saying, again, he's lightweight, but he hasn't proven himself as a guy wall street should be proud of or confident of. >> they want a guy who's -- look, they really want business people. they want to hear more chatter about how they were called into the white house and they told the white house, look, here's the five things you should do. and then those five things get done. >> i know what they want. >> this is not that kind of administration. >>> they want someone to tell their kids that they're great. >> well, you know. >> because all their kids voted for obama and it drives them crazy. anyway, thank you, jim cramer, you know that's the problem. not only do the kids vote for the other guy, they listen to the guy who's been trashing him. i know the problem. but i think it's rhetoric and i think they need psychological support up there. they

perry's administration says it's spending less and getting better results. >> i think a strong sentimentans and keeping some money in the bank for the future seemed like a pretty wise idea for many folks. >> reporter: what is most troubling for education experts is that national assessment scores for fourth and eighth graders have been stagnant the last five years. at the same time, texas ranks 44th in the country on the amount of education money it spends on each child. texas also has one of the worst high school dropout rates in the country. >> so we are going to have lots and lots of children in this state left behind and if that is what happens, if that is the model for america, i don't think we will be able to compete globally. this is not something i think america wants. >> we will get our country working. >> reporter: rick perry's critics say he is out of tune on education and the debate will only intensify on the campaign trail. ali, one of the other debates and i think most people around the country with when they hear of texas education with little they have heard are these deb

in the report supplied to upon request from the white house by the social security administration. perry added if elected president, he won't abolish social security. he will transform it, and that transformation will be gradual. it will not come immediately. >> people on social security today, men and women who are receiving those benefits today or individuals my age on -- in line quick to get them, they don't need to worry about anything. >> perry elaborated in his book titled "fed up." question, is it in the nature of a pay as you go social security system that it does resemble a ponzi scheme? mort? >> yes, you know, there was a cartoon in the new yorker p sob was asking bernie madoff what was your inspiration? he said social security. okay? that's true! i'm not making that up. okay. so that's in fact, what you have in social security as we all know, millions of people who will be beneficiaries over the next several decades, and the funding still isn't there. if nobody is willing to address it either by postponing the age at which you get it. so in one sense it's clearly a false basis

perry's administration says it's spending less and getting better results. >> there's a strong sent.need to live within our means. and keeping some money in the bank for the future seemed like a pretty wise idea. >> reporter: what's most troubling for education experts that national assessment scores for fourth and eighth graders have been stagnant. at the same time, texas ranks 44th in the country on the amount of education money it spends on each child. texas also has one of worst high school dropout rates in the country. >> we're going to have lots and lots children left behind. and if that's what happens, if that's the model for america, i don't think we'll be able to compete globally. this is not something i think america wants. >> we will get our country working -- >> reporter: perry's critics say he's out of tune on education and the debate will only intensify on the campaign trail. >> ed lavandera joins me live from dallas. his budget cut billions from the education budget but he says the local districts are responsible for teacher cuts. how does that work? >> he made the com

would you accept some kind of a position in a perry administration or some other administration if one other candidates were to defeat president obama? >> look, i've got the best job in the world. i'm privilege to be governor of the great state of louisiana, we are creating jobs for our people here. we are turning our county around despite the nation a recession. i want governor perry to create millions of jobs for my fellow americans. we still have work to do in louisiana. we are on the right track. southern business development ranked us number one in the south for three years in a row. we still have more work to do right here in louisiana. jon: i know one of the theupblgs you'd like to do down there is pump a little more oil. we have a story about that coming up. governor bobby jindal of louisiana, thank you for being our guest. >> thank you for having me this morning. jenna: gas prices are down from near record highs. many of us paying more than $3 a gallon. why economists fear gas prices could shoot back up at the worst time. we'll have that story coming up on "happening now" ♪ wh

in fact, i think under a perry administration, the only jobs that would be created are for fat checkersand every time we've had an independent nonpartisan media source look at these wild and reckless charges from rick perry they've concluded that these allegations are false. look, this is going to be a long race, it's going to go down to the wire, it will be competitive, a lot of good candidates running, but i think at the end of the day, what is doing to -- what is going to decide this election is who is the candidate best ewinned -- equipped to lead on jobs and the economy and one thing we know is mitt romney has a plan, it's specific, it's detailed, to get this economy going again. rick perry doesn't even have a plan to turn around the texas economy where the unemployment rate has doubled on his watch. jon: it's been said politics is a dirty business and if you throw mud you both get dirty. how do you dilen ate your campaign from his without destroying both in the process? >> i think campaigns are fundamentally about ideas, and you can go and look at mitt romney's plan at mitt romney

why isn't rick perry pointing to obama administration officials who cite romney care as a template forbama care. >> paul: dorothy, we've seen him for an hour or more, is this the same rick perry that we've seen in the meetings? >> magically, you've touched on the exact point. the trouble with rick perry in public he's not the rick perry that we see in private. the rick perry we see with that aggie ring standing there, a military man, is one tough customer, the first impression you get is, not only does he look tough, he is tough. what happens when you put him in the public arena, he becomes an inhibited person, suppressing all of that arrogance because he he thinks that it wasn't necessary and this makes him constricted performance. >> paul: overhandled by the political advisors stuffing him with this or that. >> possibly. you can't conceal who you really are and here he is, being this nice guy, smiling over these assaults on him. whereas when you confront him at some, across some table, you don't want a fight with this guy. >> what about mitt romney? he certainly is practiced as jason

it has to be a criticism of the obama administration and the bush administration. >> chris: rick perry? >> he could be attacked on those rounds he could say i was a good governor, we had job growth i'm not going to do it the way bush or obama did it. >> chris: thank you panel. >> next vice president cheney talks about his health and legacy. >> chris: when we talked with former vice president cheney we asked him about his serious health issues. as you will see, our conversation turned surprisingly personal. you reveal in your book that last summer were you entering what you call end stage heart failure. and doctors installed a pump in your heart. you say in the book were you unconscious for weeks. why? >> the surgery was done on an emergency basis. i had reached the point where my liver, kidneys and so forth were shutting down because of a lack of blood flow to the hard. had gotten so weak after five heart attacks that it want able to move an adequate volume of blood to supply all of my vital organs. the solution was to install what is called a heart mate with 2. a pump that supplements

it has to be a criticism of the obama administration and the bush administration. >> chris: rick perryttacked on those rounds he could say i was a good governor, we had job growth i'm not going to do it the way bush or obama did it. >> chris: thank you panel. >> next vice president cheney talks about his health and legacy. exclusive to the military. and commitment is not limited to one's military oath. the same set of values that drive our nation's military are the ones we used to build usaa bank. from free checking to credit cards to loans, our commitment to e military, veteransand their families is without equal. ♪ visit us online to learn what makes our bank so different. usaa. we know what it means to serve. a mouthwatering combination of ingredients...e for you! i know you're gonna love. [ barks ] yes, it's new beneful healthy fiesta. made with wholesome grains, real chicken, even accents of tomato and avocado. yeah! come on! [ barking ] gotta love the protein for muscles-- whoo-hoo! and omega-rich nutrition for that shiny coat. ever think healthy could taste so good? [ woman anno

if rick perry was not right to be governor of texas why should he be for president >> chris: >> guest: i haven't endorsed anyone. i have kay since we worked in the ford administrationars ago. and when she decided to run for governor, she asked me to support her and i did. it was not any commentary on governor perry. >> chris: you thought she was a better candidate? >> guest: that's correct. she ran in the primary and lost. >> chris: why did you think that perry was not as good as she was. >> guest: i didn't know him the way i worked with and knew kay bailey not going to get anything on you. >> guest: i am trying to avoid that. >> chris: there is a lot of talk that you and the bushes really like mitt romney. >> guest: i do like mitt. he is a very able guy and watch what he did with the olympics in utah. the winter olympics. and i thought he was a good governor. again, though, i haven't endorsed him or anybody else and don't expect i will any time soon. we'll see what develops in the primaris and who emerges from the process. i do expect in the end i will support the republican nominee for president. >> chris: do you worry that obama is vulnerable, but that the repub

. >> i don't think have ever seen an administration gone further afield of the constitution. >> perry skipped the forum. he is dealing with wildfires in his state. the plain spoken record of the governor's talk on job but he is facing new scrutiny when he was democrat. he co-shared al gore's presidential campaign. >> i just don't understand how someone could call themselves a reagan conservative. >> the new poll shows they are disappointed with congressional republicans. >>> wall street took a plunge today as worries deepened about the debt crisis and the weak economy. you can see the dow at around 128. it's been down as much as 307 points in early trading. president obama gives a big speech on jobs for congress on thursday. you can watch it live right here starting at 4:00 p.m. meteorologist mike nicco has the forecast. a lot of fog coming in and then the sunshine. >> pretty quick today and flight arrival delays are already over. we're seeing a lot of the blue, summer heat is in the forecast on for a couple days. i'll show you the dramatic change for the weekend. >> good for your tom

. >> i don't think have ever seen an administration gone further afield of the constitution. >> perry skipped the forum. he is dealing with wildfires in his state. the plain spoken record of the governor's talk on job but he is facing new scrutiny when he was democrat. he co-shared al gore's presidential campaign. >> i just don't understand how someone could call themselves a reagan conservative. >> the new poll shows they are disappointed with congressional republicans. >>> wall street took a plunge today as worries deepened about the debt crisis and the weak economy. you can see the dow at around 128. it's been down as much as 307 points in early trading. president obama gives a big speech on jobs for congress on thursday. you can watch it live right here starting at 4:00 p.m. meteorologist mike nicco has the forecast. a lot of fog coming in and then the sunshine. >> pretty quick today and flight arrival delays are already over. we're seeing a lot of the blue, summer heat is in the forecast on for a couple days. i'll show you the dramatic change for the weekend. >> good for your tom

it has to be a criticism of the obama administration and the bush administration. >> chris: and rick perry could be attacked on those grounds but also say i was a good governor of texas. we had job growth. i'm not going to do it the way bush are obama did it. >> chris: up next, former vice president dick cheney talks candidly about his health and his legacy. lightning fast. lightning strong. verizon 4g lte. america's fastest and largest 4g lte network. verizon. built so you can rule the air. >>> when we talked this week with former vice president cheney we also asked him about his very serious health issues. as you will see, our conversation turned surprisingly personal. you reveal in your book that last summer you were entering what you call end stage heart failure and that doctors installed a pulpen in your heart and you say in the book that you were unconscious for weeks. why? >> the surgery was done on an emergency basis. i had reached the point where my liver and my kidney and so forth were shutting down because of a lack of blood flow. the heart had gotten so weak after five heart at

rick perry is trying to capitalize on queasiness about the obama administration and we will see more rrow from rick perry and, hate to make things all about the big apple, but president obama, brooke, is also heading up to new york this afternoon. he is going to have a fund-raiser in new york city. haen is basically a fund-raising base for the president. it is not a big surprise to see the president going up there. but he is expected to stay in new york until his big speech at the general assembly on wednesday. so a lot of things u.n. this week. a lot of things new york this week. and we're keeping an eye on all of it. >> i know wolf is in new york covering that for us this week. we will check in with wolf later too. jim, thanks very much. another political update ticker for you. for now, take a look at this. >>> for months, one man sat in a gruesome horrifying detail about his wife and two young daughters were murdered in their own home and now he is about to relive that horror all over again. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. >> your family was destroyed. >> william pettit lost h

. >> slamming the social security administration and federal reserve, rick perry tried to revive his slumping campaign. there are positive signs about the u.s. economy that kerrey and his rivals -- perry and his rivals are focused on. >> our economy expanded. not much, but better than expected. fewer americans filed for unemployment last week. the german government okayed a plan for europe's debt crisis. the u.s. house okayed a stopgap to avoid a government shut down. but u.s. home sales were down in august, and only a third of u.s. ceos said they would be hiring in the next six months. the obama-biden team admits the overall economy is still bad. >> we have to kickstart this economy that is stalled. >> just focus on job creation. that is what it is all about. >> rick perry went on cnbc. he needs to kickstart his campaign. his support died after recent debates. he called social security a ponzi scheme. perry said today he would transform the system. >> anybody on social security today, anybody approaching it, do not have anybody -- anything to worry about. >> he did claim we are bein

don't think that appeasement is an accurate description of the policy of this administration. >> is it unhelpful? rick perry is way ahead in the polls to be the republican nominee. president obama's approval rating is quite low. it is likely that rick perry might be the next president of the united states. therefore he's incredibly important. if he comes out with these kind of statement, isn't that dangerous? >> that's up to the american people whoever you will vote for as your next president. it is not up to us. i don't pretend even to involve in it. but i'm a great fan of honesty in politipolitics. i'm not a great believer in polls. but it's beyond us. we expect any american president, from whatever side of the political aisle, to be basically pro-israel in the sense that he might always recognize the common ground t common basis of values, it puts certain responsibilities on ourselves to behave accordingly. it puts a certain responsibility on you. but i believe that we have a much wider support for israel basic cause than could be described through politic glasses or eyeglasses. >> i interviewed prime mi

east wasn't naive, and arrogant, misguided and dangerous. >> you just heard rick perry accusing the obama administrationnts. a strong word with a lot of history there. ahud barack was in an exchange with piers morgan last night. >> i will tell you that the obama is making the security of israel for which i'm responsible in our government in a way that could hardly be compared to any previous administration. >> is barack obama in your view, and you're very experienced in this. is he a friend of israel? >> i this first he is the president of america, he is friendly to israel's security related issues, he's also trying to be even handed with the palestinians. i don't think he's part of the problem, he's part of the solution. >> a nice vote of confidence from the president of the united states from the israeli defense minister. david gergen, as you. >> there could be. >> the arrogant and misguided. the question for you, david, as someone who has worked for four presidents, is it proecht at a sensitive diplomatic moment like that, for a politician to come to new york and effectively undermine the president o

obama administration and their middle east policy of appeasement that has encouraged such an ominous act of bad faith. >> i mean, appeasement is a very strong word to use. do you agree with what rick perry said? >> i don't understand exactly what he meant, in what context he's -- >> let me read you exactly the contents. he said we are indignant that certain middle eastern leaders have discarded the principle of direct negotiation between the sovereign nation of israel and the palestinian leadership. and we are equally indignant that the obama administration's apiecement has encouraged such an ominous act of bad faith. >> i don't think the obama administration encouraged the attitude of the palestinians. i think they are genuinely trying to promote peace and to bring both sides with all due deference to bring them together and to push it.

perry is working his way into the palestinian statehood debate. the republican front-runner for president schmoozing with jewish leaders in new york. >> we'ric wallly indignant of the obama administration their middle east policy of appeasement that has encouraged such an ominous act of bad faith. >> stephen: yes, obama is acting in bad faith. rick perry stands with the jews, when he's not dancing with them. >> stephen: you know, you know who would love that dance? the crowd at his next christian only stadium prayer rally. (laughter) >> stephen: when we return, i will talk more about the palestinian drive for statehood with jeremy ben ami, the president of the pro-israel, pro peace organization j-street. we'll be right back. (cheers and applause) (cheers and applause) >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. my guest tonight is the president of the pro peace, pro-israel lobby j street. i found him on j date. please welcome jeremy benami. (cheers and applause) thank you very much. all right, mr. benami. you are, as i have said, you are the president and founder of j street. you also have a book called "a new voice for israel, fighting for the survival of the jewish nation" okay let's talk a

administration so far. and they think that he has all the things that rick perry says. now, rick perry today in new york stood up with a couple of very hardline israeli politicians, some of who don't really believe in the two-state solution. i think there's something else going on there, in addition to catering to some christian conservative votes, i think there are some republicans in general, think that israel is the weak link in obama's foreign policy. it's hard to attack him on a lot of other things, having been the guy who got osama bin laden. having been successful in a lot of other areas in foreign policy. this is the one place where if you want to try to make obama look like a peace nick, look like a traditional leftist democrat, you go after him on this. >> jonathan, on the very eve of when he's going to have to stick his neck out and do something any american president would probably have to do, veto the action in the security council with regard to creating a palestinian state, he is going to be the -- he will be hanged for that across the islamic world. he'l

the day before the president's big speech, rick perry ripped the president's middle east policy. >> the obama administrationheir middle east policy of appeasement that has encouraged such an ominous act of bad faith. simply put, we would not be here today if the obama policy in the middle east wasn't naive and arrogant, misguided and dangerous. >>> it doesn't take long for the other republicans to jump on the bandwagon. >> the president's failure to stand by at the time of need has been very unfortunate. >> perry is right when he talked about obama's foreign policy as it relates to israel. it's been misguided, it's been weak, and that has resulted in the minds thinking they're going to be given a state and they're using obama's own words against americans. >> they're trying to paint president obama as extreme and anti-israel for political gain. >>> america's commitment to israel's security is unshakeable. >> joining me now, democrat eccongressman steven rossman of new jersey, and republican congressman bill cass yesterday -- cassidy. thank you both for joining me. congressman cassidy, do you support languag

perry held a press conference in manhattan earlier today in which he accused the obama administrationtowards middle east leaders basically accusing the white house of throwing israel under the bus and allowing the palestinians to make this request for r state hood at the united nations and this was some tough texas talk. even for rick perry. >> we're equally indignant of the obama administration and their middle east policy of appeasement that is encouraged such an ominous act of bad faith. simply put, we would not be here today at this very precipice of such a dangerous move if the obama policy in the middle east wasn't nieve and arrogant, misguided and dangerous. >> so, there's a lot of things going on today with these statements. one is obviously he's making a play for jewish voters. in many days, this is a dog whistle to christian conservatives. he had the prayer event in august. down at liberty university in virginia last week and now, he said this earlier today talking about israel, that as a christian, he feels he has a clear directive to be a supporter of israel. that is somet

. >>> rick perry told a crowd in virginia today he would fight the anti-jobs regulations of the obama administration. >> we need a nominee who draws clear contrast. president obama and i have a clear contrast in things we believe in. >> republican rival mitt romney criticized rick perry stands on immigration today. he accused him of tolerating illegal immigration. saying he has done too lit tool secure the border. romney said he would welcome only legal immigrants and reach out to those who are educated because he said we need the brain power for innovation. a poll on how they rank here in california and rick perry is not that top of the list. >>> a scary wake up call for a family as fbi agents come knocking at their door. how investigators ended up at the wrong house. >>> developing news in san francisco, this crowd marches on city streets is growing and the newest information on what street they are impacting traffic wise. >>> i got your forecast for tomorrow. more fog and cooler day time highs and thunderstorms in the mountains. see you back here. >>> more on hour developing news from san francis

perry making changes with the epa. >> they will be pro business administrators and there will not be any apologies. >> there has been big setbacks for michele bachmann so she will be looking to gain momentum. allison burns ktvu channel 2 news. >>> police arrested a southwest airlines passenger for failing to turn off his cell phone. a spokesperson said the man turned his cell phone on as the man was landing in el paso. -- in el paso. they met the man at the gate and took the man into custody. >>> a federal grand jury indicts a man in texas for threatening a man on twitter. she received more than 20,000 threatening tweet from king. he is now being held without bail. mayor is his advice president of the maps and location services. last year she hosted a fundraiser for president barack obama. >>> president barack obama is considering leaving thousand troops in iraq passed the withdrawal at the end of this year. that is less than 10,000 proposed by the pentagon and leon panetta said it is up to iraqis whether any u.s. troops stay passed the deadline in their -- deadline in their country. >>> the city of vallejo was hopi

administration. >> reporter: even perry's supporters acknowledge it's not a good night for the texas governor. debate has simply never been his strong suit. he will have some time to prepare before taking to the stage again with other candidates. the next debate is nearly a month away. >> and mitt romney has had the benefit of being through this before. >> reporter: absolutely. many times. >> thanks very much. >>> now, for the satellite set to crash into the atmosphere today. abc's neal karlinsky is in california, at one of the command centers tracking its descent. good morning, neal. >> reporter: good morning, robin. we're at the aerospace mission analysis center. a lot of anticipation as the satellite enters its final orbits. take a look at their latest data. see the yellow circle way out in the ocean, off the coast of south america. that's the latest projection of where they believe the satellite might smash down. here's the strange part. because the margin of error is so huge, it might come down at any time today. as the satellite enters the atmosphere, everything changes. bit by bit, piec

>> meanwhile, governor perry making headlines of his own. he blamed the obama administration economic slump. fixing it might require a superhero at this point. so which one would he recommend? >> the real current superheroes, there was one back in my day named superman, and superman came to save the united states. >> superman was a fictional character, right? just confirming. >>> and then another man working for the republican domination for president, jon huntsman, he was there at a gun show. he says if he cannot get the gop nomination he will not run as an independent. >>> a week from tomorrow we'll be in tampa for the cnn tea party republican debate. the event is cosponsored by the tea party express. that's a week from tomorrow right here on cnn. >>> we're coming up on the 10th anniversary of september 11th. people still asking the question, just how safe are we? candy crowley joining us next with a report card on national security. [ male announcer ] they'll see you...before you see them. cops are cracking down on drinking and riding. drive sober, or get pulled over. ther

administration years. frank rich writes, "whatever perry's 2012's electoral fate, his lightning ascent is final proof if any further is needed in the day of tea party gop that a bipartisan consensus in america is as unachievable now as it was after 1964." i'm skeptical of what rich writes, but he's a smart guy. let's go to these questions, do you think, richard wolffe, you studied the politics of this presidency better than anybody, how do you see the argument here. let's start with the right wing, is this going to be a right-wing victory in this nomination process? when it ends up in tampa next fall, at this time next year, will we end up with a conservative candidate? >> i'll put money on that. the energy of the party is for an extreme candidate that doesn't want to have anything to do with the center, with moderates, with obama's position. >> that's what i think. i think the party of heat and hatred to some extent needs a head, that's got to match the heat and the hatred. your view, cillizza, is the party going towards somebody of true right-wing belief and attitude, not just somebody who's acceptable do

perry, one week romney. it's back on romney again. the administration is going to play hardball with that. that's good for them. at the end of the day, propose something to the american electorate. that's the challenge. in terms of getting people to the polls, he has to offer a vision for the next four years. it can't just be, i won't do what the republicans will do. it has to be something proactive and move the ball forward. that's the big challenge going into 2012. >> alex wagner of "the huffington post" and msnbc. >>> despite his low job approval rating, voters say they trust the president more than republicans to fix the economy. former presidential adviser austan goolsbee joins me next to discuss how the president can get his jobs bill passed. >>> and later, an exclusive interview with historian michael beshlosh. he's listened to the jacque kennedy interviews conducted just months after her husband's assassinati assassination. he will tell us what surprised him the most. [ male announcer ] these are volunteers... our neighbors putting their lives on the line. and when they rely on a b