. >> we heard of the importance of meeting characters in contemporary culture, like perry mason, where they lead you in a career direction. would reduce say to someone even now contemplating a career in the law? >> i had not anticipated that question. " i tell people in selecting careers of all is to pick the career that every day gives you some joy in the tasks that you are doing. that sounds simple, but it is very hard. if you like working with your hands, then finding the career that led to do that. that will give you joy. if you like figuring out puzzles and things of that nature, you might like computers. that will give you a moment of joy each day. if you like thinking about problems that people are having and you like reading in a way to solve those problems, as opposed to sitting in their room and working them up with the person, then you might like to be a lawyer. you can sit in a room and help people talk through their problems and give them a framework to do that in or you could be a judge, like i am., and read about their problems and look through books and figure out how t