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. >> trump's perry mason moment. let's play "hardball." >> i'm chris matthews in washington.n. the president told abc news he has no problem accepting dirt from a foreign power. he denied that foreign help should be considered election interference. listen to this. >> your campaign this time around, if foreigners, russia or china or someone else offers you information, should they accept it or call the fbi. >> i think maybe you do both. i think you want to listen. there is nothing wrong with list

people say it should be like perry mason. make them admit it. walk us through your view how this works both what we're learning from are the way the democrats are doing the hearings thus far and the criticism they're not getting enough fast enough. >> well, it's a tricky area because the law is somewhat undefined. the supreme court made clear in the nixon case there's no such thing as absolute immunity. hope hicks can't march in and simply claim she doesn't have to answer any of these questions. there is a limit, a possibility that white house cos invoke executive privilege on a limited subset of questions, but there's no way that executive privilege can apply to events that occurred before the president became president, namely russian interference during the 2016 campaign. there's no way executive privilege can be invoked when it comes to questions about did she ask michael flynn not to testify, did she try to work with cory lewandowski to go to sessions to limit the scope of the inquiry. those are things no court would recognize as falling wi

. >> this was truly the perry mason moment that most criminal defense attorneys wish for but they neverbut that being said, i think it's a little bit premature for chief gallagher and his family to celebrate. this is not a complete exoneration but i do think it's time for the navy to hit the pause button on this case to take a few days to stop, to reassess, to figure out just what happens and what this means with respect to their overall case. one of the first questions at the navy needs to figure out is why were prosecutors surprised? where they surprised because they were focused with laser beam intensity just as the defense has alleged on chief gallagher? or were they surprised because this was a witness who was now testifying with an agenda designed to run their train right off the tracks? that has to be one of the first things that prosecutors need to figure out before i think they should move forward with this trial. >> sandra: the key part of this as he was testifying that key prosecution witness cory scott, seal team seven medic, he was testifying with immunity. so there's one p

i adored perry mason, i thought he was cool, but atticus finch was a whole another level. >> yeah.oes the play. it was remarkable. it exuded the value of the rule of law. and it's not perfect, as we say in the book and as i witnessed in the play, but the respectful for the rule of law that atticus finch exudes is so much a foundation of what we are as a country, talk about the rule of law and maybe compare atticus finch to robert mueller. >> it's a really good comparison, because it's not enough to respect the rule of law. atticus finch views the rule of law as sacred. you do not alter that belief in any way. and mueller seems to be that same, boom, this is what the law says i can do and this is what it says i can't do. atticus is the same way. tom robinson is found guilty when he shouldn't be at all, atticus folds up his briefcase and says, that's when the case ends and i go home. and i have to live with the verdict. and the respect and the sacredness of the rule of law is everything to atticus finch, and should be everything to us. >> and should be everything to the president, wh