skye perryman, please keep us updated. as this is making its way through the courts, we'll be sure to have you back to to see what is going on with this. thank you for that. also joining me here, astead herndon, who is a national politics reporter for the new york times and cnn's senior legal analyst, elie honig, elie sky made a really important point there, which i think was how judges are reacting to what trump is doing because he's essentially been in this position where this is the resistance that he's facing. it's not from democrats, it's not from anything like that. it's from the courts. really. >> this is the. >> only resistance that donald trump is facing. >> and thus far. >> he's zero for all of these lawsuits. i mean, thus far, every judge to have considered one of these lawsuits. >> has at least. >> put donald trump's actions on hold. and if i could sort of to digest what we just heard in that very interesting interview, the. >> position of the. >> workers here is essentially, yes, of course, the president runs

perryman respond.r the strategy elon musk is doing, how do you think they should be going after waste, fraud, and abuse? guest: people like the inspector general who have massive staffs installed in large agencies across the federal government to do exactly this, to evaluate and ensure there is not waste, fraud, and abuse, and improper conduct. what this president did in the first days of his administration was fire them. we know the american people want a government that works for them and works better. what we are seeing is an effort to install corrupt loyalists within the administration that have no obligation to the american people and are not looking at where corruption is, they are going in for their own personal purposes, taking data and acting in a very arbitrary manner. my message to the administration is if you are concerned about efficient government, you need to operate in a way that is not undermining people like the inspectors general whose entire job is to find waste, fraud, and abuse, a

perryman respond.r the strategy elon musk is doing, how do you think they should be going after waste, fraud, and abuse? guest: people like the inspector general who have massive staffs installed in large agencies across the federal government to do exactly this, to evaluate and ensure there is not waste, fraud, and abuse, and improper conduct. what this president did in the first days of his administration was fire them. we know the american people want a government that works for them and works better. what we are seeing is an effort to install corrupt loyalists within the administration that have no obligation to the american people and are not looking at where corruption is, they are going in for their own personal purposes, taking data and acting in a very arbitrary manner. my message to the administration is if you are concerned about efficient government, you need to operate in a way that is not undermining people like the inspectors general whose entire job is to find waste, fraud, and abuse, a

president and ceo of democracy forward, skye perryman, thank you for joining.now learning about the totally different heist. police in pennsylvania are investigating after thieves made off with $40,000 worth of eggs. yeah, way too early. we'll be right back with that. >> we do have major developments out of washington. have we already sort of crossed a rubicon in terms of who we are as a country and what the rule of law is? america is listening to you right now, thinking about what might have been, people hearing you, talking about the pushback and the fight and not mattering. what does that mean in practical terms? what they're doing to immigrants is something they say they're going to do every day. what's democratic strategy for trying to take that on? we've got a free press, a free people, and an organized free people, and an organized political opposition that can neuriva support your brain health? mary. janet. hey! eddie. no! fraser. frank. frank. fred. how are you? support up to seven brain health indicators, including memory. when you need to remember, r

the president and ceo of democracy forward, skye perryman, is here. and, skye, it's great to have you. just tell me one on this latest lawsuit where you think that's going to go. and also your reaction to to hearing what the press secretary karoline leavitt said, how she's describing this ultimatum that is facing federal workers tonight. >> you know, what we know is that the vast majority of the american people, over 90%, expect that our federal workers work and are working based on merit, not political loyalty or ideology. yet what this administration is trying to do is to hollow out that value and to seek to undermine our civil service. the people that work, by the way, not just in washington, but in all 50 states and across the country, doing the work of the american people, keeping us safe, keeping our food and water safe. all of these services that we rely on. and so we are encouraged that the judge saw this for what it was, which is an abrupt departure and something that's both harmful and unlawful, and paused the government's activities here un

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perryman said, who's one of our state's leading economists that used to work for rick perry, who was a trump appointee to secretary of energy that if you deport all of these people the way that they're saying and you unleash this mass chaos that it would actually bankrupt texas and bankrupt this country. but no, we're not really talking about that, and that's really unfortunate. look, i want to work with my republican colleagues on this issue. i've agreed to work on this to be a part of this bipartisan caucus that's being created on. -- that's being created on energy security because i think that it's important, but some of these other overarching issues around these tariffs and immigration and this madness that's been unleashed, we really do need to address those and the brief time that i have left, i just wanted to ask mr. arnold, your testimony highlights some great work that's been done in louisiana and colorado, and i commend you for the work that's been done there, but i did want to get your impressions on what repealing ira tax credits like 45q would do for these future projec