also makes it harder for people to get asylum by raising the bar to establish credible fear of persecutio it doesn't even stop family separations. they claim it does but it does not. the family separation is decreed by the trump administration. they could and it tomorrow morning. tomorrow morning. the bill makes things worse by saying that families that come to the border who are not separated will be kept in detention. the whole family, including the kids will be kept in detention. if they have a credible fear of violence from gangs or whatever, they have been threatened -- we've seen several cases of women who came to the country because two of their kids were murdered by gangs. they gang said if you're still here next week, we will murder your third kid. because net the best because of the -- because of the sin that the kid is not want to join the gang. they asked for political asylum here and our tradition is that someone who establishes a credible fear at the interview is released on their own recognizance and eventually goes before a judge to decide asylum. under the new policy, eve

we'rll for securing the arders, bute need to provide a spaceor people who are fleeing persecutio i with the majority of these people are. it's not an amnesty, it's a path towards legalization. >> is thereid me ground here? >> i think that -and i think we need to stop the kind partisan bibbingering and look at this from a human point of viewe which ihave 12 million undocumented people in this country. they are here pary because they're fleeing persecution but also becausethere's a need for workers. eign mpanies need f workers and the trump i administration not only stopping the inflow of undocumented people but all immigrants. we had 85 thousand requests for further evidence issued last year for temporary work visas an this is hurting american individuals. ot just foreign >> so what d a you sees the next step here as we waitor congresso do something? i mean, there w this push to get something done now, and now president trump is l sayet's wait, the president sms to think he'll have more republicans to back his agenda come november. >> that very well may be. but look, the other issue that

is that the underlying reason for this whole argument, are these families really facing fear w persecutioe immigration court has set in the last year and a half, over 80% of these are criminals. first of all, we got to attack the very foundation, they are arguing these people are coming to this country. these parents are using these children as pawns to gain entry to the united states know who we can detain them. as far as a separation of are concerned, you have to put the blame on the parents. they are choosing to enter between the ports of entry. they know they will be separated, but they want to blame the government when we are forced to do that. let's put the blame where it lies, not on the fine men and women of the border patrol and i.c.e. we are enforcing the law. >> tucker: funeral make the policies of course, but what would happen if we do what we are hearing we must do, and that is give immediate automatic amnesty to i anyone crossing wih a minor child in tow? >> that is what we are asking congressll to fix the agreement. under the settlement agreement, if a family comes into our