i think by representing himself, persico did not help himself.here was a very dramatic period of time when the main witness against him, his cousin by marriage, who had harbored him when he was a fugitive and testified against him, when persico cross-examined him, as you listened to the cross examination and the thuggery, i thought to myself, if you want an exhibit of what a mob boss looks like, this is exhibit a. david: this is not the last time you were young for your job. when you became u.s. attorney in one of the you were youngest, i think in history. michael: i was in my 30's. after i did the commission case and did some more crimes, i got a call one day, in 1987, that the new u.s. attorney in new jersey was looking for a first assistant. he was a very experienced appellate lawyer but he wanted someone with trial experience. his name was samuel alito. now justice alito. i went over and i interviewed and became his first assistant, and did some trial work there. we have some very interesting cases, including the mayor of jersey city, who was