>> mays is not like the she havefield, bright ton, boston personalist. but mays's experience, i mean, he opens his own autobiography by saying my first memory is a mob. my father is attacked and made to cowtow for fear of his life. and mays, like thurman, both of them are rooted in the deep south. we can never take that away from them. they both experience the terror of the deep south in the way terror distorts the personality. if you have to kowtow, that distorts your personality. they almost seem like the narrative of douglas. douglas says the first time they are trying to beat him, he's almost going back in his head that his personality is being dimmed. that's how they see jim crow. jim crow is such a violent act on black people that it distorts their whole personality. for mays, if there's going to be a god, god has to enhance the human personality and the vit vitality to live. so both thurman and mays grow up in the south. thurman in florida, mays in south carolina. and thurman's grandmother always told him, you know, that god -- i'm roughly paraphr