of appeals has found that a sign was illegal getting the sign down and because of that supervisor peskin is also sponsoring amendments to section 610 of the planning code that would provide for administrative hearings and penalties that would be enforceable particularly in conjection with the city attorney to try and deal with those cases where there just hasn't been compliance. >> thank you. this is a gigantic sign and it's interesting. it's getting cheaper and easier to manufacture billboards and signs. we no longer have the hand painted signs. we have vinyl signs just produced out of a printer from a computer. you of doing that kind of sign, is that right? >> it's getting more and more difficult to getting spaces to put up signs and largely controlled by a couple of companies doing the outside advertising. it's unlikely we will get the space. we can get the material but they control it. >> as we look along we see general advertising mixed with the advertising for the retail spaces and the right spot. this historic neon sign we hope some day gets restored. >> that is a good example wit

. >> they are required to -- in 2004 peskin introduced an ordinance and adopted the ordinance to also include these metal covers that you see pretty much in a lot of the older parts of the city. most of of them are elevator hatches for subsidewalk basements. but in certain cases like this one there is a utility under there. >> if you are on a steep hill with one on ask its raining boy can you take off. >> what is the new requirement >> the new requirement is the property owners are required to bring these into compliance. get tests run. if they won't site them if our inspector feels this is too slippery. we don't have instruments to determine that. yeah. there are things you can do. you can sand blast it to roughen it, epoxy coatings and things you can do to adjust it. certain things are exempted. the exceptions are the sewer vent covers. 4 inches 4 inches. those are exempt [inaudible]. one other thing before we leave this we have seen 2 fire hydrants the new fire hydrant, an old fire hydrant and across the street, laurence. this is part of the high pressure water system develop indee