and it would also petco did people more time to adjust to them. thank you very much. >> thank you, doug, and let's open it up. >> so you began by saying though that the estimated held savings is unchanged, so we're talking about the second to in years, $1.20 trillion in savings. >> our estimate of defense is unchanged, and as we explained in our cost estimate in march, it reduces budget deficits by about $140 billion over the next jr.'s and by an amount in a broader range of the decade beyond that. >> so when you talk about the alternative budget, but you said eliminating imbalance would require significant changes in tax and spending policy. let me finish. reallyt you're affirming, i think, is key elements of the health-care bill, if they were repealed, and that, in fact, the deficit -- the debt would grow even more, and the deficit would grow even more. >> of course, it depends on which elements of legislation where repealed. as you know, legislation -- a >> your alternative budget. >> increased spending is significantly. others reduce it severe