pete hegseth is president of vets for freedom. he's an iraqi war veteran. peter beinart is the author of "the icarus syndrome, a history of american hubris." and john soltz returns, co-founder and chair of vote vets.org. and staying with us in kabul is "rolling stone's" michael hastings, who wrote that article about general stanley mcchrystal that will be everywhere on friday. what do you make of these developments? >> shocking. it's an end to a good career. the president did the right thing. you cannot have the military do that. in fairness, it was mostly his aides. that doesn't get the general off the hook. larry, the big question i have is who in the world approved michael getting this interview? and, you know, things like this aren't just the general's people out in the field. people at the pentagon have to sign off on this. public affairs staff at the pentagon needs to explain all of this. because i don't want those people in charge of anything serious again. when you allow a journalist especially into a bar like that for the drinking scene in the arti