when we were writing order number 4, pete nash had succeeded me as solicitor. i recall his sitting in my office when i was undersecretary, and we were going -- by that time i was becoming more and more nervous about the straight quota notion. just the straight population and remedy based on the population. we ended up adding about five or six or seven other factors in there so that we weren't dealing with total quotas, although it was more apparent than real. >> you mentioned in describing art fletcher concern about the southern strategy. i assume just to unpack that for the person -- people listening, it was your concern that by trying to appeal to conservative democrats you would be losing the opportunity to open the door to more minority representation of the republican party? >> exactly right. many of us still thought of the republican party as the desce descendant of abraham lincoln. although di-- we felt a little bif lent aboto nixon's appeal o the so-called strategy. there was always a question whether the southern strategy had a racial element, and we w