billy flynn, pete randall, and vance, aka j.r. lattime.place. and they set it up to make it look like a burglary. and i guess the guy tried to run or something. they grabbed him, they threw his dog in the cellar. pete said he held the guy's head while bill shot him. >> the juveniles that were involved in the murder, beginning with billy flynn, all of them had specific problems in their lives or with the police, too. the seabrook police, they were familiar with these kids involved already. >> so, peter was the one that shot him? >> no, pete said he held his head. >> did he say how he held his head? >> no, he just said he held it, and bill pulled the trigger. >> but why? what was the alleged motive? welch seemed to know that too. >> did they tell you anything else about it? >> they're supposed to be getting some insurance money or something. this is just what they said from pam. like $500 or something. >> $500, is that what pam was paying them? >> that's what they said she was going to pay them. >> you're talking about pam. who's pam? >> the