then you're hanging out and become best friends with pete seager year after year after year. >> i remember the first time i went to visit pete and his wife toshie, i was five or six years old. and we went out. we were living in queens at that time in new york. and we went out to their place. pete had built a log cabin on a high bluff over the hudson river. and i just said, whoa, this is like davey crockett stuff or something. you know? and so we got there. i was really excited. i remember my mom saying go play with the other kids. i was hanging out with his kids like any familiar lishgs you know? but over the years -- and i thinking maybe in the mid 60s to the late 60s that time. there were so many people out on the streets. so many things going on. and the war and change the lafrpg ray, all th lingerie and whatever it was and pete was always there. you could hear that banjo of his from blocks away. i remember walking through washington, d.c., and i could hear his banjo. and him, you know, singing. and there's no other instrument like that. and so i met up with him at all of these differen