there was the kingston trio and pete seeger. a lot of that came through orange county. i fell in love with the banjo. i could not believe it. i watched them play. it was like watching a mystery. i bought a book, how to play the five-string banjo. and an instrumentalist taught me some things. i took a 33 rpm records of banjo songs and slow them down and lowered the attuning so would be note for note. so you learn the song that way. >tavis: you are self-taught. >> i guess so. tavis: you never took formal lessons. >> i never did. the farthest i got was in the book. here is the way your fingers roll and you memorize that. and you start combining them. as time goes on to become more relaxed. it is scary for someone who is an actor to put out a music record. it is the -- it could be the height of embarrassment. the worst album covers in history are celebrities. i love my album covers. tavis: explain what this album cover is. >> it was submitted as design -- as a design. it is one of the pastiche amusing covers that i fell in love with. they even -- to look in the upper right