francis mcpeake iv: pete seeger was one of the first people, if not the first person to actually bringthe family song "will you go lassie, go," which my great grandfather wrote, to america. and i contacted pete and asked him how he first came across the song, and he actually met my grandfather in the troubadour in london in 1959. judy collins: i heard this song many years ago and everyone assumes this is quite traditional, that it was an amalgamation of all kinds of things and it was but it was at somebody's hand, i guess. francis mcpeake of the mcpeake family from belfast. and this song goes like this. francis: remarkably, four generations of francis mcpeake, the oldest son has played irish music, loves the music, plays the bagpipes, the uilleann pipes, and has kept it going. bono: i was at slane castle and bob dylan starts to ask me about the mcpeake family. and i'm like, "who are they?" and he says "but they're irish. how do you not know who they are?" and then he starts talking about liam clancy and how he used to, bob dylan used to, go to see the clancy brothers in the village in

responsibility and the powerful singing and into the total aesthetic, almost amish approach of pete seeger to life. so i was talking to ronnie about it once before, and i said, "it looks to me that your band, like our band, "all combined together to make "one sort of complete human being, you know, with all their faults and all their vices and virtues." they combined to make one whole unit that was very impressive to me. so i built what was our band on a--unconscious, actually-- but a format of what the weavers had done, both in social responsibility, in terms of doing benefits, in terms of helping people that you were in a position to help. 'cause it's so easy as a rock and roll band to go out and raise a large amount of money for a serious cause, which most people cannot do. and all we have to do is just, like, go out and play. and so not to do it almost becomes a sin, in the catholic sense-- a sin of omission. and it's so easy to do, and the weavers made it look easy despite all the mccarthy and the h.u.a.c. hearings-- made it so easy to do to help so many people so quickly. that's one

a sense of futility i felt very enfranchised and i believe the remember the first time i heard pete seeger i was eight years old and is ready to dedicate myself tom wherever he wasys going ias would be following and i don't think. that music accomplishes that now i think it takes us away. but for myself, i am happy to say the a idealism that does not seen to be squashedt entirely by experience the sad history over the years is a lower ambition of what is possible. i believe everything is possible. i am much more inclined now to work in a small and local way. >> is that because of age coming gettingu older? is that just getting older? >> no. i a tribute it to experience to believe that the more ambitious global cools a realistically attainable the small humble once provided tribute it to raisingin children when you spend the last 37 years raising children new focus small those are your little emissaries out on to the planets. >> we used to say we want to change the world in the '60s and we all heard the saying all we can do is changers sells. what you talk about the losse idealism of the '6

i remember the first time i heard pete seeger. i was eight years old and i was ready to dedicate myself to wherever he was going. i don't think that music accomplishes that now. i think it takes us away. i would say for myself that along with -- i'm happy to say -- and idealism that does not seem to be squashed entirely by experience of sad history over the last many years, a lord ambition of what is possible. i believed everything was possible. i am much more inclined now to a work and a small and local way. >> is that because of age, getting older, or what? do you attribute it at all to the just being older? >> no. no. >> okay. >> i attribute it to experience and believe it is, that the more ambitious, global goals are less realistically attainable than the small, humble ones. i think i attributed in part to raising children. that when you spent the last 30 some years raising children you focus on small. those under the old emissaries to the planet. >> or we used to say, you know, we wanted to change the world and the 60's. we h