. >> what did you see, what did you snens thense in that moment pete seeinger? >> pete is right. there is a power in music that most people underestimate. and you wouldn't know it really by what you like. it's what you don't like that shows you how powerful it is. and the old soviet union, there was pieces by beethoven that were banned. why is that? there's no words in there. but there's a spirit in there. that comes out. unless you're the kind of person who says i don't want to hear that or that is dangerous, you know, when you feel -- when you're threatened by something, that is how you know the power of it. not when you're just sitting back having a cocktail on a beach somewhere and music playing in the background. that won't get your attention. but when something threatens you, you know it's what it is. and it occurred to me that pete always knew that. he always knew that there was a power in the songs. there was a spirit in people singing together. and he proved itver and over again. and i think that audience that night at carnegie and all of the shows he's done throughout h