. >> phil elliott, pete shrader, thank you both for your time. >> thank you. [captioning performed bynational captioning institute] [captions copyright nationalcable satellite corp. 2013] >> we will look more at student financial aid on monday. join us live at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span 3. this is a challenging time for people who are conservatives. we've got not only a democratic resident but a quite liberal democratic resident was not only been elected but reelected after putting into place some ideas and programs and projects that i think are very wrongheaded. the public had a chance to think about that and they did reelect him grea. what i try and many others try to do is modernize conservativism, bring it in line with the challenges the country faces now, help conservatives and the rest of the country think about how to confront the challenges of the 21st century. neither party is doing a good job of that. there's a lot of opportunity for innking about what america the 21st-century needs to change about the way it governs itself, to get to get back to ec