former fbi counterintelligence agent pete strzok is here.es" reporter and an msnbc contributor. and our good friend john heilemann's back. host and executive producer of showtime's "the circus." executive editor of "the recount." also an msnbc national affairs analyst in his free time. jeremy peters, you have a killer story on all of this from last week. take us through it. >> so you're absolutely right. this is unlike any defamation case that we've seen against a major media company in a very long time and perhaps a generation. and that's because usually defamation cases are built around one single statement or even a clause in a newspaper article or something that was said on a single broadcast. what dominion has here is instance after instance, night after night, lie after lie, on broadcast. and that's what makes this case so strong, because not only has fox refused to retract anything that its hosts and its guests said about a supposed conspiracy that everyone from hugo chavez to, you know, the german government was involved in supposedl

pete strzok, the "times" reports this.makers confront a rise in threats and intimidation and fear worse. congresswoman ocasio-cortez said her office can hardly keep up with the astronomical amount of threats she receives in a day. more than any other member, except house speaker nancy pelosi, democrat of california and representative omar, democrat of minnesota, according to what party leaders have told her. the onus is on the aides who answer the phones in her office. some as young as 19, to determine what constitutes a threat. so, ms. ocasio-cortez has taken matters into her own hands. her office has a daily morning routine of creating a document with photos of the men who have made threats against the congresswoman so that she can recognize and avoid or report them. since 2021, she's spent more than $120,000 on security services, according to the data analyzed by the "times." is this how it should be, that a 19-year-old congressional staffer is fielding calls and assessing threats? or should she have more protection, pe

>> fifth. >> we're back with pete strzok, miles taylor, and jim walden.ndment i learned from "law & order," but how is answering questions about donald trump, unless you're worried i "law is order." >> one of those people is a former high ranking doj official, so it's hugely embarrassing. >> and the other a former high ranking military official. >> absolutely. there are two parts of today's hearing. one was the speaking indictment and the other was trying to convince hearts and minds. i think the fifth, that whole segment is part of the hearts and mind, and it's tied to the subpoena. donald trump said anyone who takes the fifth must be a criminal. it's not true, but it's his perspective tom overlay that with the individuals taking the fifth, i think that's the hearts and minds strategy. >> peter stark, i wonder, there's so much hypocrisy it's almost not worth pointing out. people who cooperate are flippers in trump's mind, people who take the fifth are guilty. his innermost circle, i think three of them received pardons in the final weeks of his presidenc

former fbi counterintelligence agent pete strzok is here. also joining us jake sherman, co-founder of punchbowl news, as well as an msnbc political contributor. former democratic senator and msnbc contributor our friend claire mccaskill's here. and out in san francisco outside of the pelosis' home is nbc news correspondent jake ward. jake, i start with you. tell me everything we know at this hour. >> well, nicolle, the accounts of the attack are as follows. we know that paul pelosi, a man in his 80s, was sleeping home alone at the house you see behind me when an attacker broke in through the back yard window using a hammer. that was 42-year-old david depapp according to san francisco police department officers. mr. depapp comes in and attempts to tie mr. pelosi up, telling him "we will wait here for nancy." and somehow mr. pelosi has the presence of mind to at a moment when mr. depapp is distracted actually dial 911 and get police summoned to the scene. it is then when police arrive that the attacker in fact tells them, according to officers

correspondent and an msnbc national security contributor, former fbi counterintelligence agent, pete strzok is here. and harry lipman, and u.s. former deputy attorney, mike schmidt, joins us. mike, take us through the reporting first. >> i mean, you laid out the reporting. the question is that what does the justice department do now? so, the justice department believes there are more documents out there. and do they want to take the aggressive move, similar to what they did in august, and execute another search warrant. and deal with everything that comes with that. and how are they going to approach that? you know, are they going to go to that level and have another, you know, raid, as trump describes them, and rile things back up all over again. as we point out in the story, there's another option for the justice department. at least two other options. one is, they could try subpoenaing the documents again, but we know that subpoenas in this investigation have not worked that effectively. the attestation coming in response to the subpoena that was misleading to the justice department earl

pete strzok, these are one of the allegedly stolen and held onto items.he was sort of showing classified things to journalists and writers all along. what do you think? >> well, i think the biggest thing it shows is that trump is absolutely aware of what classified information is, that it is something to be handled carefully, that it is something that he doesn't want known that he's showing because he understands he shouldn't be doing. in terms of his state of mind about what classified information is and how it should be protected, this is an extraordinary piece of evidence for certainly prosecutors and the potential jury to look at. the fact is at that time of this recording, he was the president and at very wide latitude to share it with whoever he wanted. that didn't extend the day after, you know, he left office or at any point after that. you know, nicole, i can't help but imagine the scores and scores and scores of other conversations he likely had with other journalists and or friends or lobbyists or whoever stumbled into the oval office and he wa

also, pete strzok and andrew weissman, former justice department prosecutor. also the general counsel for the fbi now an msnbc legal analyst. it's like sophie's choice, picking which one of you to go first, but i'll go in order. frank, you first. >> what's developing here is a crisis of credibility. and fear that the senior most leaders of the fbi and even at other intel agencies as we continue to learn like every day, who knew what and when and that it was a lot more than we thought they knew at the time proceeding january 6th. i fear that those leaders are not grasping the gravity of this moment in terms of the future of their organizations. what i mean by this is it's time for complete transparency. it's time to come out and say we dropped this ball and here's why, but when we have chris w wray testifying on the hill they lack specific intelligence when we have just days after january 6th the head of the washington field office calling a press conference saying he lacks specific intelligence on that violence in the capitol, something's very wrong because we