carole: i would say peter allen. incredibly underrated songwriter, in my opinion. marvin hamlisch, who was a genius and special beyond words. writing with him, and with peter, was joyful. they were so quick, they were so alive. and burt, but burt in a different way. i acknowledged him as a genius. but his process was not an easy one. he labored over which chord to use. he would go, do you like this chord, or do you like this chord? i would go, ok, i like that chord. he did not care what i liked. he just needed me in the room, so he could go back to this chord, this chord. it was ours. but when we got to writing the melody, he was like, this is my melody, don't change a note, whereas everyone else i had written with would say, yeah, that's a good melody you just saying, carole. there was a flow. there was a back-and-forth. with burt, the perfect example was when we were writing "that's what friends are for." he played this, and i thought, ok, i never thought i would ever feel this way? he would go, carole, i need that note. he went to the piano and went, and i never