i'd say at least two weeks. >> and it's just you and peter arnett and the camera person? >> yeah. the camera person was a at least rahman had been to afghanistan before. and they were the exactly right people in case something -- arnett had been in many war situations, obviously. they were the right people to have around if anything did go wrong. one of the things that went wrong almost immediately is the week before we went to see bin laden, the taliban banned the photography of any kind of person. so, we were in a quandary about whether to go to the country illegally because we didn't have visas, because if you applied for a visa they'd ask what you were doing. we decided not to apply for a visa and go in and take our chances. and like a lot of things that were never clear in afghanistan, it was never clear to me the taliban knew we were there to interview bin laden and sanctioned it or that they just couldn't care less. they weren't that interested in who we were. you're pretty obvious if you're living in jalalabad in a hotel for several days, not really doing anything. ice like