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mark halperin is joined by andrea mitchell of nbc news and peter baker of the "new york times." >> look, i think the overriding priority for the obama national security team is really one of stability, trying to keep the relationship from rupturing and trying to keep violence from spreading even worse than it has in the streets of cairo. you don't see them out there banging the drums and denouncing with full fury what's happening there. you don't see them criticizing even president morsi with full... either. they're trying very much to play a quiet game. president obama hasn't said one word in public about this yet. he's issued only a written statement expressing deep disappointment. his spokesman has called for calm and condemned violence. >> we continue tonight with the ongoing saga of n.s.a. leaker edward snowden. i'll be talking with people on both sides of that debate from the intelligence community to privacy advocates. philip mudd, rotenberg, jesselyn radack and timothy murphy. >> and what has been revealed by mr. snowden violates at least two federal laws governing surveillance.

peter baker the white house correspondent for the new york times and also from washington andrea mitchell the chief foreign afirs correspondent for nbc news and the host of the daily must-watch program andrea mitchell reports on m.s.-nbc and i am pleased to have them both here. andrea, let me start with you. on egypt the administration is facing some criticism for the policy that it's had. just take us through a little bit of the history and where you think the tougher choices have been in the period from the time in which it was clear that morsi was... may be forced out in the military decided that they were going to play an active role in getting him out and ushering in a new government. what's been the history there and again the choices the administration has made? >> i think you have to take it back a little bit farther because it was the decision to stick with morsi over these many months when he was already canceling the constitutional rights, closing n.g.o. offices. the two groups of democratic overseers who are mandated by congress and they included in one case the son of a cabin

gwen: covering the week, alan gomez of "usa today," peter baker of "the new york times." karen tumulty of the "washington post," and beth reinhard of "national journal." >> award winning reporting and analysis. covering history as it happens. live from our nation's capital, this is "washington week with gwen ifill." corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by -- >> we went out and asked people a simple question -- how old is the oldest person you've known. we gave people a sticker and had them show us. a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90's and that's a great thing. one thing that hasn't changed, the official retirement age. how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years? >> additional funding for "washington week" is provided by the annenberg foundation, the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. once again, live from washington, moderator gwen ifill. gwen: good evening. the action on capitol hill turned to the house this week, which m

peter baker of the "new york times" writes, while other presidents has put the bully in the bully pulpits his megaphone and the power with it sparingly, speaking out when he decides his voice can shake the tra jektyry -- trajectory of an issue. it seemed like in the president's first term, you couldn't turn on the television at night without getting some kind of a white house address. what happened to that approach? >> well, they changed their minds. they concluded it wasn't working. we know from talking to the people at the white house that they concluded in this new media era where there was a tower of babble and so much sound and ever somewhere -- everywhere that you looked that the president would do better but not speaking out on everything. if he stayed quiet and spoke less often, more attention would be paid to things that he did say. he also, famously, made a couple of mistakes in speaking out on issues in the public sphere in his first term that he later came to regret, the famous professor at harvard, the black professor at harvard who ended up resulting in the beer summit in t

a story from peter baker in "new york times" that says most of the top leaders in washington who have been quiet and reserved in publicly talking about this. if they're not happy about what's happening in egypt they're not happy about it. is that an accurate assessment? >> that is an accurate assessment. washington is purposefully trying to create a little space right now between washington and what's happening in egypt. even saying that, look, this might be for the best. the obama administration has at times been quite skeptical of mohamed morsi's competence. so, they don't necessarily think this is a bad thing, what they're calling for is a return to a democratically elected government as quickly as possible and an end to the violence. admin stragistration officials e he will continue to get regular updates. what we are hearing is from the state department. we have a graphic of a report she released last night. "we condemn the violence that has taken place today in egypt. as president obama said, we expect the military to ensure that the right of all egyptians are protected, includi

generally people like to deliver to their home districts but even president obama himself admitted to peter baker big mistakes of his stimulus is that s. no such thing as shovel-ready job. even the president of his own metrics, his own policies are not going to get us out of that ditch that he's always talking about. >>> up nebs, we are going to crown this week's biggest brain and talk about whatever they want to talk about. we're still tallying the results but i can tell you this week's biggest brain will be a woman. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ >>> brain trust is back. as promised, time to crown one of our regular brain trust members' biggest brain. the topic of their choosing will be the topic of this particular segment. t

and it didn't create the jobs that he said it would, and in fact, the president he admitted to peter bakerrk times that one of the biggest failings of the stimulus which he did not know until he discovered it is that there is no such thing as shovel-ready jobs. that is out of president obama's own mouth. and now he wants to propose more of the same, and you know what, a lot of people on both sides of the aisle, including the liberal columnists are giving it a big yawn. >> and clinton, speaking of columns you wrote a very interesting one about mark leibovich's book "this town," and you talk about how the power brokers are operating and d.c. where the average citizen lives and certainly different worlds, but is that indicative of the problem of the leaders that they are refusing to work together while the people they serve suffer. >> yes, if you look at the income gap that exists of the people in the district, it is one of the high nest the nation, and there are people living literally 10 to 15 blocks from the white house in strict poverty and that is the case all over america. if it is the

. -- host: peter baker is a terrific reporter.here is a political scientist that wrote a wonderful book called the hidden hand transforms theh historical viewpoint of dwight eisenhower from a fairly ineffectual president to one he was very effective behind the scenes. good point,ry particularly in this sense. dynamicour political is such that you have republicans that will reflexively vote against something if barack obama is for it. look at pat toomey from pennsylvania. bill he had cosponsored on background checks went down on an filibuster, but a majority of votes but not the 60, he spoke to a group of reporters and says many of my colleagues would not vote for anything barack obama was for. we know that when obama wanted to come out for the immigration bill, his ally said do not do that. it becomes the barack obama immigration bill and then we will not get the 60 votes we need. he has had to adjust his style to step back from much of this legislation. a go forward without his direct involvement is a lot of the involvement behin

there's a traditional of english fictional characters from peter pan in nearby kensington garden to sherlock holmes on bakeret. >>> with rick perry announcing he's not running for re-election, we thought we would take a look back at some of his best moments in the political spotlight. ♪ ♪ >> today has been awesome, girl! >> if they print any more money over there in washington, the gold's going to be good. and it's like, live free, die for your death, bring it. >> force the granite state to expand your tax footprint. you know what i mean. >> it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. >> the third agency of government, i would do away with education, the -- commerce and, let's see, i can't -- the third one i can't. oops. ♪ >> it the mitt romney on the side of second amendment before he was for the second amendment? >> the reason we fought the revolution in the 16th century. >> i grew up on a farm. i grew up -- i grew up on a farm. >> today's going to be awesome, girl. now, brian will have your most creative tweets on

peter, paul and mary. celebrities, jackie robinson, paul newman, josephine baker, sidney poitier, lena horne, ossie davis and ruby dee, charlton heston, sammy davis, jr., marlon brando. the celebrities were everywhere. but what seemed to have gripped you as you spoke, and as you've written and talked about, in a sense, was those thousands upon thousands of nameless, ordinary people who were out there. >> it was unreal, unbelievable. when i got up to speak, i can see the people, the young people. i can see those middle aged and older people. i can see some members of congress down near the foot of the podium. it was a sea of humanity. >> were you intimidated? you were only 23. you had only been head of sncc, the student nonviolent coordinating committee, for what, a few weeks? >> only a few weeks. and my first responsibility was to travel to washington. we had a meeting with president kennedy in the oval office of the white house. and we told him we were going to march on washington. you know, president kennedy didn't like the idea of hundreds and thousands of people coming to washington. and he said to mr. r