and peter baker is still with us. peter, is the times right? from the trump white house have told the fbi? >> well, i think they could have told about the last chaotic days of that white house. remember, of course, president trump wasn't even admitting he is going to be leaving the white house until right up until the end. there was no systematic, organized effort to pack up and handle the last remaining issues on his desk, because he didn't want to admit that he was going to be leaving. and anybody who even suggested that preparations needed to be made were immediately, you know, chastised, punished, and so forth. so i think that cipollone, the white house counsel, the top lawyer in that white house and his deputy, pat philbin can tell us is that the precautions were taken, what do they know about documents that were classified, were stored and taken away. and what do they know about this supposed claim, the claim that former president trump has made, that he had somehow magically declassified everything that he ever touched, basically that he

and peter baker is still with us. he times right, what could the two top lawyers from the trump white house have told the fbi? >> well, i think they could have told about the last chaotic days of that white house. remember, of course, president trump wasn't even admitting he is going to be leaving the white house until right up until the end. there wasn't no systematic, organized effort to pack up and handle the last remaining issues on his desk, because he didn't want to admit that he was going to be leaving. and anybody who even suggested that preparations needed to be made or immediately, you know, chastised, punished, and so forth. so i think that cipollone, the white house counsel, the top lawyer in that white house and his deputy, pat feldman can tell us is that the precautions were taken, what do they know about documents that were classified, were stored and taken away. and what do they know about this supposed claim, the claim that former president trump has made, that he had somehow magically declassified eve

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peter baker, not letting you live just yet. when we come back, russia signals that it wants to talk, about the u.s. china relationship getting tested. and conservatives down in dallas, cheering on the pale selling leaders of the crazy conspiracy world. we're gonna harness one of our favorite historians just how close we are to the democracy crisis. the 11th hour, just getting underway on a busy friday night! friday night! ing new one a day multi+. a complete multivitamin plus an extra boost of support for your immunity, brain, and hair, skin & nails. new one a day multi+. i grew up an athlete, i rode horses... i really do take care of myself. i try to stay in shape. that's really important, especially as you age. i noticed after kids that my body totally changed. i started noticing a little pudge. so i took action! coolsculpting targets, freezes and eliminates treated fat for good. no needles, no incisions. discuss coolsculpting with your provider. some common side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort and swelling. yo

peter baker, harry lippman, frank, and trace walder are still with us. u hearing about how trump's inner circle is responding to all these revelations? >> i think there is a mix here. there is obviously those who believe this is a good issue for him politically. that he's actually trying to make this about grievance, and persecution. and continuation of the witch hunt, that kind of thing and believe that he is profited politically from it and generating support from his base. clearly his money raising efforts have been benefited by this. but there are also some people in the trump org, and the larger republican organization who are very nervous about this. not that it's necessarily a good, politically, much less legally. you see the former president exposed to prosecution and the affidavit has probable cause for a crime. well, trump committed one, it's -- and had possession of them in his residence. that's a big, big red flags for a lot of republicans who are concerned that they were someplace dangerous. particularly during the career, talking about the n

pique are peter baker is back with us to help us make sense of all this global news. spent years as moscow bureau chief for the washington post. so, peter, let's start there, with russia. is it a good sign that russia wants to talk? did they need to get griner's conviction and sentencing out of the way first? why now? >> yeah that's exactly right. staff stephanie. in other words, it seems a good thing to say -- -- when wants to make an -- exchange first move through the legal process. and at least demonstrate in their view that this is a legitimate prosecution, that she's really criminal, she's not a political hostage. this is the way she looks to everyone here in the west. and by -- it's not that we've done anything wrong, it's that she's done something wrong. but now we can show forgiveness. we can be above and show the high road, in effect. so, that's their modus operandi. fact that she was convicted does suggest that they are ready to have serious talks about to deal. it's a tough deal to make because viktor bout it's -- >> an innocent woman home. >> and viktor bo

joining us is peter baker and ryan riley. ryan you've been poring through this document that came in just after midnight last night, 36 pages in all. it's a response to trump's request for a special master. they said here are some of the receipts, particularly with that photograph. >> that's right. to me, one of the most interesting things that filled in more of the details about what happened in june. as you laid out, there were 15 boxes that were turned over, 14 of which of those boxes had classified information in them. after that grand jury subpoena was issued in late may and executed in early june, you had a situation where there were a number of documents turned over to the government. that's what we learned more details about last night on top of all this other information, was that there were 17 documents in there that were marked top secret, 38 unique documents that bore classification markings. that's an interesting component of this because after in response to this grand jury subpoena trump officials turned over a

still with us to discuss, peter baker, melissa murray, and frank frog lucy. , let's go back in trump's history. he is not the best guy when it comes to keeping secrets. talk to us about things he's done with classified information on thinking russia, north korea. he doesn't have a good record. >> no, that's, right i think there's a long history of cavalier, or at least casual control over classified information, there is an incident where he's in the oval office visiting the russian officer was -- intelligence about the islamic state, that come from the state of israel that caused a great deal of concern. at one point he tweeted out an image of an iranian site that had been given to him and a briefing, there was concern over that. i remember he had his cell phone that he continue to use at one point. even though he was warned that it was being tapped, or potentially tough by the russian and chinese. he was told to stop using it because it was vulnerable to foreign interception and he continued to use it anyway. we sought repeatedly throughout his presidency as

peter baker, you sticking around because you've got a new book coming around called "the divider." you write that donald trump complained to his chief of staff john kelly that he wanted u.s. generals to be more like hitler's generals. the president's loud complaint to john kelly one day was typical. you f'ing generals, why can't you be like the german generals. which generals, californiay kelly asked. the german generals in world war ii, you do know that they tried to kill hitler three times and almost pulled it off? and no, no, no, they were totally loyal to him, the president replied. in his version, the generals of the third reich, they had been totally loyal to hitler. tell me about this reaction of john kelly. >> a retired four star marine general. he heard that president say many things about the military that i think stunned him and dismayed him to say the least. he talked about the parade he wanted down the streets of washington, d.c. but he didn't want any wounded soldier, people without limbs in the parade because it would look bad and general kelly said to him something

still with us to discuss, peter baker, melissa murray, and frank frog lucy. s history. he is not the best guy when it comes to keeping secrets. talk to us about things he's done with classified information on thinking russia, north korea. he doesn't have a good record. >> no, that's, right i think there's a long history of cavalier, or at least casual control over classified information, there is an incident where he's in the oval office visiting the russian officer was -- intelligence about the islamic state, that come from the state of israel that caused a great deal of concern. at one point he tweeted out an image of an iranian site that had been given to him and a briefing, there was concern over that. i remember he had his cell phone that he continue to use at one point. even though he was warned that it was being tapped, or potentially tough by the russian and chinese. he was told to stop using it because it was vulnerable to foreign interception and he continued to use it anyway. we sought repeatedly throughout his presidency as sort of a very casual at

joining us now that bock's co-author peter baker, white house correspondent for "the new york times"des both msnbc contributor. peter, congratulations is premature, but you are getting plaudits for this reporting. i want to ask you about milley and i want you to talk about the broader perspective of how trump's relationship with these military people who he referred to as his generals and how that evolved over his four years in office? >> it's very interesting, of course, john, and ben knows a lot about the civil-military tension. his president had tensions with his generals as well, but president trump viewed generals as, you know, people who should be politically loyal to him. he viewed the military as the worry among the generals as a political instrument. that's what they were afraid of and that's what they didn't want to slap and that's why you saw general mark milley and retired admirals like john kelly and general silva, and they all pushed back on trump's vision of the military for his own purpose. that's not been the history of the military in the united states and it's diff

. >>> with us to take a closer look at this and other foreign policy headlines is peter baker, ""newspondent and political analyst. great seeing you. the white house and the pentagon apparently weren't too pleased or initially urged pelosi not to go to taiwan. how does her visit complicate things for the u.s. government? >> well, from the point of view of the white house, what they would tell you she has ever right to go and they defend the prerogative of the speaker of the house to make her own decisions. they did warn her there could be consequences because at this moment, china in is a precarious position with the party congress coming up and anners havery coming up. her going to taiwan stirred a lot of backlash from china. you know, what you saw here in the united states was, you know, concern that this would open up a crisis in asia at the same time they're dealing with a war in europe right now, right. in other words, the focus of the administration foreign policy wise for the most part has been shipping arms to ukraine, arms that otherwise, by the way, taiwan itself would like

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peter baker is with us tonight chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," also an nbc news political analyst. peter, good evening. the attorney general wanted to quiet the political attacks by releasing this document, but what do you see happening now? >> well, they'll never quiet the attacks but what he has done is outline there was a very serious issue involved here. and the former president can't simply say, hey, this is all nothing to see in fact, raises questions about the former president in terms of his own criminal culpability on a rather serious charge as you outlined we're not just talking about keeping some papers that should have been in a file here or there. this is about the espionage act, destruction or concealment or removal of documents in an illegally way. this basically undercuts the argument this is simply a political, you know, retaliation against him. especially because we know that the justice department and the fbi have been trying to get these documents back from him for several months without cooperation from him >> does the former president an

peter baker is the chief white house correspondent for the new york times, where he covered the trump presidency and the fallout. betsy, i know you have been working the phones, talking with your sources, what more can you tell us about the developing story? >> yeah, we've confirmed that this is related to documents at the national archives, but they've been trying to recover from trump, documents that he allegedly improperly took from the white house to mar-a-lago. but i can tell you is that months ago, agents went to mar-a-lago, met with trump's lawyers, went through boxes, look to documents, and then took some materials with them after they left. months have now passed, and now today we are seeing a search warrant be executed and mar-a-lago. the timing is really important here, because in order to get a search warrant like this, investigators have to prove not just that they can think that there is probable cause, there's evidence of crime at a particular location, but they think there is evidence of a crime at a particular location, and also at a specific time. so, what that means

still enough for, majority the but the momentum for the moment is on the democrat side. >> peter, baker you so much. can we talk to you about the disruptor. let's keep that look. at thank. you meanwhile, countdown to blast. of nasa poised to launch the most powerful rocket ever on a journey like no other. that is next. that is next >> today, we're expecting as many as half 1 million spectators descend on the space coast. they're in. florida for this huge rocket launch. the biggest ever for nasa. 8.8 million pounds of thrust, that is more powerful than the southern five rockets that live to the apollo astronauts up to the moon. now, nasa is going back to the moon, the moon base, and then mars. nd the mars super cool news in case you haven't heard nasa's going back to the man. that is the artemis 1 rocket, on the launch right now in the kennedy space center, less than 24 hours from its maiden voyage. nasa's most powerful rocket yet will take off after half a century, after the faint apollo missions. the artemis mission will send it anchored capsule around the moon and back. it is a major

joining me now, the word who wrote those words, peter baker, chief white house correspondent at the "analyst. i imagine it's a double-edged sword here. on the one hand you want to tout the victories and tell americans look what i'm doing for you but on the other hand, part of the reason that joe biden won was this fatigue surrounding donald trump. so it's got to be benefiting him, i imagine, as well in some respects. >> yeah, i think that's right. it's frustrating in the white house to have the kind of weeks they have had in the last few weeks where they have rolled out a number of big legislative victories, they've had a good few weeks after a lot of very unpleasant months, a lot of bad months. yet despite all that, a lot of attention is still on his predecessor. no other sitting president has ever had quite the same shadow over him. other previous presidents have sought to come back but they didn't have the sort of dominating presence that this one has. now, it's not necessarily something to be jealous off. as you rightly point out, the coverage, attention being paid donald trump ar

peter baker, harry lippman, frank for the sea, tracey, walter thank you all.epublican response to the affidavit has been subdued. trump allies has been all politics. we're gonna get into that sign of today's allegations. when the 11th hour continues! continues moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. despite treatment it disrupts my skin with itch. it disrupts my skin with rash. but now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. rinvoq is not a steroid, topical, or injection. it's one pill, once a day, that's effective without topical steroids. many taking rinvoq saw clear or almost-clear skin while some saw up to 100% clear skin. plus, they felt fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. that's rinvoq relief. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers including lymphoma and skin cancer, death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. people 50 and older with at least one heart disease risk factor have higher risks. don't take if allergic to rinvoq, as s

peter baker is with us tonight, the chief white house correspondent for the new york times and an nbc news political analyst. peter good evening. the attorney general wanted to quite the political attacks by releasing this document but what you see happening? >> they will never quietly attacks but i think what he has done has outlined a very serious issue involved here. the former president can't simply say, hey, this is all nothing to see, that raises questions about the armor president in terms of his own culpability. they are rather serious charges as you outlined, we are not just talking about keeping some papers that should've been in a file, this is about espionage act, this is about obstruction or removal, or concealment of documents in a legal way. so basically it undercuts the argument that this is a political, you know, retaliation against them. especially because we know the d all of his allies, do they see this as an asset or a liability going forward? fbi were trying to get these documents back from him for several months without cooperation from him. >> does the former p

it came courtesy of an upcoming book from award-winning journalists susan glasser and peter baker calledquickly soured on military officials around him. the book quotes trump as saying you eving generals why can't you be like the german generals, which generals john kelly asked. the german generals in world war ii trump responded. you do know they tried to kill hitler three times and almost pulled it off. john kelly said then the white house chief of staff, no, no, no. they were totally loyal to him. the former president replied. and joining us now to talk about this is one of the authors of that book susan glasser. i suspect had there not been a search at mar-a-lago that gobbled up a lot of our attention we would have been talking about this anecdote that was picked up and reported in your book with your husband the great peter baker and we have to talk about this. it is unnerving i think to hear about trump's thoughts on loyalty when it comes to generals in the military given what takes place on january 6th. tell us about this and some of the other alarming things you picked up on. >>

in their new book, the divider, trump in the white house 2017 to 2021, peter baker and susan glasserirman of the joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley, was on the verge of resigning in a truly scathing letter. let's go to our pentagon correspondent, oren liebermann. this resignation letter that milley wrote but never sent, he had very, very tough words for the former president. to put it mildly. give us what you know. >> absolutely. this is in the days and weeks following january 1st, the infamous walk of president donald trump and some of his top national security advisers including chairman of the joint chiefs mark milley to lafayette square. it was in that video that we saw milley walking right next to trump before shortly after that video, milley realizes what's happening and peels off. that, of course, is not what's remembered from that moment. according to this article, this excerpt from this new book, he was torn about what to do in the days following that and even penned a number of different drafts of a resignation letter. here is part of what he wrote in one of the ver

. >> i want to bring in nbc's senior international correspondent, keir simmons and peter baker with theho has served in moscow as well as keir, of course, most recently interviewed vladimir putin, a year ago, june, before the geneva summit. so, keir, first to you. your take. nine years is a very tough sentence. she pleaded guilty to, you know, what would have been a misdemeanor if that, back here. but this is the russian system. what is the prospect for a prisoner deal now? >> well, andrea, i think there are real prospects, but i think you can expect the kremlin to negotiate the way the kremlin does. you'll remember, you and i spoke some weeks ago after i interviewed dmitry peskov, the kremlin spokesperson and in that interview, i put to him that brittney griner was a hostage. he denied that she was a hostage and quickly segued to say, awe, but our viktor bout, who's in prison in america, this arms trafficker, he is a hostage. and the way that dmitry peskov put those two cases together left me in no doubt, if there was any doubt, that russia would be prepared to do some kind of prisoner

peter baker, harry lippman, frank fugese, tracey walter, thank you all.can response to the affidavit has been subdued. trump allies has been all politics. we're gonna get into that side of today's allegations. when the 11th hour continues! this is the moment. for a treatment for moderate-to-severe eczema. cibinqo — fda approved. 100% steroid free. not an injection, cibinqo is a once-daily pill for adults who didn't respond to previous treatments. and cibinqo helps provide clearer skin and less itch. cibinqo can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections and do blood tests. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b or c, have flu-like symptoms, or are prone to infections. do not take with medicines that prevent blood clots. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma, lung, skin and other cancers, serious heart-related events, and blood clots can happen. people 50 and older with heart disease risk factors have an increased risk of serious heart-related events or death with j

joining me to discuss this and more, peter baker, the chief white house correspondent for "the new york times." and eugene daniels co-author of political's playbook and the washington bureau chief of "usa today." peter, i want to start with you because it was quite a week of legal challenges for former president trump. including his top executive pled guilty to charges he was engaged in a long-running tax scheme. as someone who covered former president trump for so long, what do you make of it? what are you hearing from sources, including people from trump world about the significance to him personally and politically? peter: look, it has been an extraordinary -- week. so many different legal issues climbing towards him all of the same time from new york, georgia anthe federal government now the search at mar-a-lago. obviously we use the word unprecedented too many times when it comes to this president but it really is true. in the trump world you hear a mixture of bravado, this will help us with our base we're under attack, and they, he's denigrate job over the years of playing the pol

peter baker, what more are you hearing from the white house at this moment in terms of what they plan to communicate to the public about this attack? obviously the president had some comments but there will be a lot more questions about what's next and about the taliban itself. >> that is right, they will send out officials, jake sullivan will be on nbc and others. a big day for president biden, an important victory at a time when he is in during some domestic political troubles , a clear victory for the united states assuming the facts are as they have been presented, to take out the number two plotter for 9/11 without civilian casualties is remarkable but it does raise questions. i was in afghanistan days after 9/11 and you see afghanistan returning to that state that it was back then were somebody like ayman al-zawahiri feels he can live there relatively openly without impunity. he was in the middle of kabul. it was not a cave in the mountains it was in the heart of where the officials live, a diplomatic enclave in the capitol. he felt he had impunity to do the that which is remark

correspondent for the "new york times," peter baker is with us this hour, as well. oh -- >> go ahead, joe. >> i wanted to say, before we get to the insulin thing, peter baker, let's talk about what's been accomplished here. because we've had people, you know, biden wanted to be an fdr-like figure. people talking about whether he might be more of an lbj-like figure, getting legislation passed. but i look back, i mean, the success of this, you've got to look back. when you're comparing it to other presidents, you can look at lbj. you can look at ronald reagan. you can look at bill clinton. bill clinton might be one of the best example of a guy, even with a republican congress i was a part of that fought him at every turn, balanced budget, four years in a row, welfare reform, tax reform. you could go down the list. 20 million new jobs, a strong economy. he's also a guy who, of course, i'm living proof of this, a guy who got hammered in his first midterm. but the list of accomplishments for joe biden and this democratic congress in a really divided climate just seem to

peter baker, the "times" has been at the forefront of this. organizations have in fact gone forward to try to get this affidavit unsealed. it's our traditional duty, you know, in the organization to try to make things more transparent. to find out the basis for what the search was, you know, the basis for the search. and what they were looking for. why they were looking for. what they have uncovered so far. as journalists that's our job to try to figure it out. we're trying to figure it out ? of course, we do. and the reason from the filing you can understand from their point of view, their perspective, with that document, if they did release it they would have to redact it so heavily it would be a useful document for the public to understand. i'm not optimistic that it comes out and we get the answers we're looking for. if you're a witness against donald trump, he's going to figure it out eventually. fact is here, they've got override on the part of the public to understand what the former president was doing with documents that were sensitiv

even before yesterday's raid, peter baker and susan dropped a passage from their upcoming book reviewinghow terrified the deep state had always been. and talking about that trump marched across the street and defiance, well, the general talked about how far he was willing to go, telling his staff that he would not quit, he reportedly remarked, i will just fight him. he goes on to write that what he saw as a challenge to stop donald trump from doing any more damage, at one point adding that if they want to court-martial me or put me in prison, have at it, but i will fight from the inside. here now is our retired former defense secretary advisor. sir, this is an indictment of the character of tom, but how is it not looked at subversion of presidential authority, it is a military coup. >> yes, it is. it is also destruction of civil military relations we have enjoyed, almost unbroken for the last 100 years at least. unfortunately, i would like to say that the general is an isolated case, but i don't think he is, and i think he's a product of the selection process that favors the sycophant, a

a question comes from a headline from new york times white house reporter peter baker, news analysis, biden is on a roll that any president would relish asking is it a turning point. white house aides to see the string of victories compares favorably to the two-year legislative record of most any other modern president. president biden yesterday got more news trending in the right direction on the economics front , the headline from the wall street journal, the inflation pace slowing down last month. the labor department reports noting the pace of price increases slowing in july as energy costs drop pulling u.s. inflation down slightly from its previous four decade high. this was president biden yesterday at the white house on that inflation report and the larger economic picture. >> while the price of some things go up, went up last month the price of other things went down by the same amount. the result, zero inflation last month. people are still hurting. zero inflation last month. economists look at a measure of inflation that ignores the food and energy crisis and the called core

also with us, chief white house correspondent for "the new york times," peter baker. tactics he once deployed." yeah, the twisting of logic is becoming contorted beyond recognition, peter. tell us more about your reporting. >> yeah. look, let's remember that, for four years while in the white house, president trump repeatedly tried to bend the law enforcement apparatus in the country to his will. basically, using it as a political instrument. he wanted it to prosecute his enemies. publicly, loudly called for jailing of people like, in fact, joe biden, barack obama, hillary clinton. where are the arrests, he tweeted at one point, at his own attorney general. he tried to pressure the law enforcement apparatus in this country to go easy on his friends, on roger stone, paul manafort, mike flynn. when they didn't go easy enough for him, and they backed off, he issued pardons to undo the work of the prosecutors who worked for him as part of the executive branch. he repeatedly tried for four years at the fbi to make the justice department instruments of his political will. no

book, "the divider, trump in the white house 2017 through 2021" that book by susan glasser and peter bakertailing tensions between trump and his generals. our great reporters are back about us. we saw a snippet of general milley in the january 6th hearings talking about his displeasure and it came to the point that he drafted a resignation letter and then decided, no, i'm going to fight from within. >> that's right. we're now seeing all these books that are coming out, the extent to which milley especially and other former trump administration officials were so frustrated and sort of on the verge of quitting the administration and we have more details now, of course, on milley in particular. >> and some of these snippets in the book are fascinating. the president often forgets his history. trump said you effing generals, why can't you be like the german generals. you know they tried to kill hitler three times and almost pulled it off, kelly said, but of course trump did not know that. no, no, no, they were totally loyal to him, the president recalled. >> and i'm sure that everyone was comp

value of safe but laura, i went twice to mar-a-lago to interview trump with his book along with peter baker has been, and the second time we went to trump's private office in mar-a-lago, there were a lot of momentous and things from his time and office and still who knows wet was stuffed in their, but i was struck by the fact that he chose to hang a portrait of himself, a picture of himself and kim jong-un looking very, very chummy with each other on a wall. imagine that that is the thing you take away from your tenure at the white house. there were lots of other things that seemed like they had come straight from washington. >> speaking of things that were a part of what was written or done during his time in washington, i want to turn to your report from that new book you just mentioned. it's stunning new details. the chairman of the joint chiefs mark milley, -- he excoriated is trump in this unreleased resignation letter dated june 8th 2020. that's a week after he was seen walking with trumped through lafayette square by the white house after protesters -- were cleared out. and just befo

msnbc political analyst and chief white house correspondent new york times, our good sunday friend peter baker. welcome all, glad to have. you peter, i want to go to you first to set the stage for us. because we have been to mar-a-lago recently and whether to interview donald trump for the upcoming book. can you give us any sense of how secure the places? where there are a lot of people around, evidence of security standing around? are there any areas that aren't easily accessible, which you feel would be blocked off by the average club member? >> it is an interesting place, of course. this is not just a former presidents estate, this is an active club. and hotel, basically, for his paying guests. when he was there we did to interviews with him after he left office at mar-a-lago. because the security was sort of hit-or-miss. one time we were screaming, one time we weren't. and i think it kind of depends on the day. secret service still protects him as they do while former president. but they are not, concerned so much, with the property and things on the property as they are with him. with the

one of my other favorites, betsy woodruff swan and another favorite of mine, peter baker, all three,ee, all three msnbc contributors. neal, i want to start with you as i always do on matters of legal. i said in the open i asked a lot of people over the last few days, like, tell us about this affidavit thing and they said there's no drama here. the judge is definitely going to say no. there's no word, no precedence, never going to come out. were you surprised that he's going this far and he's even proposing the notion that a redacted version could be made public and it was surprising to me. >> what would be surprising, john, is that he ordered serious stuff in that affidavit released. so when the justice department opposed it last week which they do traditionally, i filed similar oppositions in ongoing investigations. you say, you know, this is too dangerous, we can't do it. they didn't provide an alternative in the justice department filing. they didn't say here's what, if you ordered us to redact the document, here's what we would say you could release. so the judge today he didn't

for now, let's bring in peter baker, msnbc political analyst and correspondent for the new york timesseveral administrations over the, years you have extensive knowledge in all of this. give us a hint about how this all, is not just for democrats in the country but for -- as well. >> it is very important for president biden and his democratic, allies because they've been struggling so hard for so long to get such a big domestic package through. obviously of the infrastructure bill through the last year. but the president to do something really big to we aren't american government in society. a very large ticket passage last year. it went nowhere. i think that father to get it through and something which has weighed on his opponent which are so low right now, because it looks like it was not able to accomplish what he wants -- this is something that is part of something that will reverse that. he's not getting everything he wants. it is only a small version of what he originally proposed. but it is a big bill in the. and if only the judge gets his own merits, he'd be, like that is a bi

i actually went twice to mar-a-lago, to interviewed trump for this book, along with peter baker, my coauthor and husband. the second time that we went to trump's private office in mar-a-lago, it was -- there were a lot of tchotchkes, and mementos, and things from his time in office. who knows what was stuffed in there. i was really struck by the fact that he chose to hang a portrait of himself, a picture of himself and can john soon looking very chubby with each other on the wall. those are the things that you take away from your tenure in the white house. and there were lots of other things that looked like it came straight from washington. >> speaking of things that were written or done during his time in washington. i want to turn from your report in the new york times today from the report you just mentioned. stunning new details. the chairman of the joint chiefs, mark milley, he hates trump in this unreleased resignation letter. june 8th, 2020. that's a week after he was seen with trump through lafayette square by the white house after protesters were cleared out. and just before that p

. >> let me bring in "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker. your paper highlighted the legal pressures on trump and his closest al lice, which have testiied with the news that rudy giuliani has been z a target in the criminal investigation into election interference in dpa. while another key trump ally was rejected in his request to avoid giving testimony before the special grand jury in atlanta. what's the feeling in trump world? these various investigations all seem to be escalating at once. >> they do. they seem to be coming at it from all sides. you have the giuliani thing, the lindsey graham thing and the mar-a-lago search. they are putting on a brave face. they are talking about how this is good for them politically. this will motivate their base. but you have to wonder or believe that this many legal challenges all at once feel quite stressful for them. that doesn't mean it's going to lead to anything. they have had remarkable record of avoiding legal entanglements in the past despite years of investigations on various issues. donald tr

now, even before yesterday'sai fbi raid atd, mar a lago, peter baker and susan glasser dropped a passage from their forthcoming book revealing just how terrified the deep state has always been of president trump in recounting clearing of lafayette square and his presence that day, the trump that that trump marched across the street in defiance. well, general milley madeut clear just how far he was willing to go to subvert the commander in chief in telling his staff thatld he woud not quit. he reportedly remarked, i'll just fight him. glasser and baker go on toha write what he saw as his a challenge to stop trump frome doing any more damage and at one point adding if they want to court martial me or put me i in prison and have at it, butn i i will fight from the inside. here now is retired colonel douglas macgregor, former trump defense secretary, defense secretary, adviser out colonel . this is being described as an indictment of trump's characterf . but how is it how is it being described as anything but the subversion of presidential authority like a military coup ? well,mi itp. is a s

susan, some other news from you in this book with peter baker, your husband, where trump is quoted aselling his generals -- and i will read this -- you effing generals, why can't you be like the german generals, which generals, john kelly asked, and then trump said the german generals in world war ii. that in and of itself interesting and maybe disturbing to some people but then it went on from there, a little bit of a history lesson, susan. >> you know, john, it's breathtaking, honestly. you know, this is a confrontation, a conversation between the then white house chief of staff john kelly and donald trump and, you know, you almost can't believe it, but the president of the united states was unhappy because he felt that his generals as he called them, the american generals, were not as loyal as he perceived the nazi generals under hitler to be. he thought that was the better model for a general. now, john kelly as you said schooled trump and tried to say, well, wait a minute, mr. president, they weren't completely subservient and they tried to hill hitler three times and trump inter

learned more today, this is something we were going to discuss at great length tonight through peter baker's reporting in their new book about donald trump's relationship to the military while he was in the white house. but there is this very telling moment about how he thought his relationship with the military should work. this is a passage about that. the presidents loud complaints to john kelly one day was typical, you effing generals, why can't you be like the german generals? which generals kelly asked. the generals in world war ii trump responded. you do know that they tried to kill hitler three times and almost pulled it off kelly said. but of course trump did not know that. no, no, no they were totally loyal to him the president replied. so mary, there is the typical donald trump ignorance built into that having no idea that general rommel himself was a participant himself in an attempt to assassinate hitler among others. and then there's the ignorance. and then there's this affection, the admiration for the way hitler did it. >> yeah, well that's something we have known about for

nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian, mark caputo for nbc news digital, peter baker, "new york times" chief white house correspondent, and a former special agent in the fbi's counterintelligence division. now a senior lecturer and assistant dean at the jackson school of global affairs. ken, what more do we know about those 11 sets of classified documents taken from mar-a-lago? >> good morning, jose. within those 11 sets were 5 sets of documents marked top secret. that means if disclosed, that information would pose exceptionally grave damage to u.s. national security. one is marked top secret sensitive information and that designates some of the most closely guarded secrets in the u.s. government. we don't know exactly what this is, but the information would include things like the names of cia sources in foreign countries or photos from the most advanced u.s. spy satellites or communications. so really closely guarded information. the kind of information that when the fbi seized these documents at mar-a-lago, they would have had to take it directly to a special secu

there's a big book on william leahy, peter baker's book on james baker as a chief of staff.i began to hear it is emailing job for manly man, a manly president. all of these things are great because they are such man. like linebackers protecting the quarterback. they are like bouncers throwing drugs out of a bar. this land damages our view of edith because she is a woman. she has to just be the first lady, she stepped in the breach of a terrible tragedy and kept wilson's presidency going for at least a year. i think if she was a man she would be admired for it. she and thomas woodrow wilson jr. she probably would have had great books about her. the chief of staff is a manly thing, she sees the position of helping the president. my last slide, please. this is a famous picture, i have always seen it when historians write critically about her. that she was this lady mcbath behind the throne. kind of telling the drawing woodrow wilson want to do. this is in her memoir, she was proud of this picture. she said this is me, this is 1920, i like to think he's vetoing the volstead act

a big peter baker's book on james baker on chiefs of staff. and i began to hear this, it's a manly job, for manly man, looking for a man present, and all aren't all of these men great because they are such men, like linebackers protecting a quarterback or like bouncers throwing it shrunk out of a bar? this damage is -- edith because she has to be a woman. she has to be the first lady, but she stepped in in the i thie was there to help not to in any way get in the way of reagan. he was in there to make sure that his his agenda was fulfilled and then and then he was the gatekeeper to do that. my theory is edith was the first two whether you thought think she should do it or shouldn't have whether we will see her like again, probably not with a 25th amendment and the anti-nap autism act, but she was a much more important person maybe than we her credit for being thank you. thank you so much for that really enlightening presentation and now it is my pleasure and keep your questions in your heads because you'll get a chance to ask some questions la

. >> let's bring in peter baker of the "new york times." you've had a long and storied career covering the white house and officials within the white house. we talk a lot about unprecedented moves. certainly a lot of that has come during the trump administration. and the campaign. have you ever heard of a president accidentally even taking top secret information, compartmented information, with them outside of the white house to anywhere? >> no, i can't think of any parallel to this. obviously, the question isn't just like did he accidently take some documents that he shouldn't have taken. i mean, clearly the fbi and the authorities have been trying to get those back now for months. so he had every understanding that there was an issue with these papers an he didn't give them back. and the fbi and the department of justice decided that they had executed to a search warrant to recover them. as you say, it may be just for the purpose of doing that. we don't know exactly whether there will lead to any kind of criminal charges. but the very fac

peters bakery on alum rock avenue in san jose. it's been san jose staples and opened in 1936. and a long time baker here tells me that nothing like this has ever happened here before. let's look at that surveillance video posted by peter's bakery. you can see five people walked in from the back of the bakery. some were holding knives bakery employee who was there during the robbery tells me that three employees were held up at knifepoint and in the video, you can see. one of the suspects put his hand on a bakery employees neck and then presses him against a wall while others make their way towards the kitchen. and just seconds later, they emerged, one of them carrying the bakeries, cashbox. we spoke to a baker, who witnessed the robbery. is quick less than two minutes. we give them what they want, and they walk out. we weren't going to put a fight. the robbery happened around 1 20 yesterday morning, peter speaker reposted the video on social media the same day and employee tells me thieves asked him where the cash box was located and left with about $1000 in cash. i'm told the employees are now doi