my guest is senior md mp peter boehringer. but is his party too extreme to be a serious contender for national power? peter boehringer in berlin, welcome to hardtalk. hello, stephen, and thank you for having me again. it's a pleasure to have you on the show. now, it seems almost certain — not quite official yet, but almost certain — that germans will vote in national elections in february 2025. that poses a challenge for your afd party. how ambitious are you? what are your expectations for your performance in this national election? the official polling numbers are 18 to 19% on a federal level. obviously very different in the east compared to the west of germany, but still it's something between 15 and 33% where we're polling regionally. and so i think we should aim at a 20% number. let's see whether we'll get there. i guess the problem for the md is that you have one key issue on your platform that you push all the time to german voters — that is your very strong anti—immigration position. but what we see is that the other ma