peter chin hong. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure, terry. thanks for having me on. >> thank you. let's talk about this vaccine that could be given to children. is it different than those given to adults in the ingredients, in the dosage? does it differ? >> no, it doesn't differ at all. it's the same vaccine. in the very, very young kids, there might be a slightly different dose, but for all intents and purposes, it's the same vaccine, the same dose. it's predictable. we're going to not anticipate any differences in terms of side effects in the under-12 group when that data comes out. >> do you have any thoughts at all that this might not be approved? or does it seem to be pretty much a guaranteed thing? >> i would be surprised if it's not approved. it's been really a smooth sailing in general from a vaccine perspective, and of course in society, kids are the one whose are mainly immunized and vaccinated. so it falls into where we usually vaccinate as a society. >> children don't seem to have the propensity to get covid-19 that adults do. do

. >> doctor peter chin-hong doctor, thanks for joining us. so what are your thoughts about the possibility of us reaching herd immunity. >> well, it's true that we will probably never reach herd immunity for some time and that's what they're doing in the strictest sense of the word. doesn't mean that he wouldn't continue to loosen restrictions. are we doing as we're doing doesn't mean that's in regions. won't achieve that like hawaii, for example, on the bay area. come back to sit in sense of normalcy. but because the world isn't vaccinated and because of disease borders up for us. we can't really ever get to that state you know, we are in measles, for example, where, you know, you don't see a measles every day and that's what we're trying to aspire to. >> doctor. still, it seems like, you know, an hour ago. i'm exaggerated that we were all talking about. herd immunity and then suddenly we're hearing this. did it come as a surprise is the one element outranks the others has to what went wrong. >> you are many of the reasons ccac the reasons w

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so joining us now to talk about the new rules that came out today is doctor peter chin hong an infectiousease specialist at ucsf. thank you for joining us. thanks for having me on. just seen. so what do you think about these new recommendations that if you are fully vaccinated that means both shots of moderna or pfizer or that one. johnson and johnson shot. if you're fully vaccinated, you don't have to wear a mask inside anymore. >> so there are 2 aspects. so that just seen the first is the science. and as you point out, the science is clear. if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to both get sick. and you know, less likely to transmit it. so. and in countries where they looked at that like party. you can't center all those true and in health care workers in the united states in a big study. but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem you know, this year is of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the a r. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to th

infectious disease specialists like doctor peter chin hong with ucsf spoke about the science behind the mask, how it could best protect people from picking up sars covid 2 or covid-19 when outdoors in especially indoors at grocery stores. retail space or restaurants. and now once again he says the science is dictating changes. >> and as you point out, the science is clear. if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to both get sick. and you know, less likely to transmit. so and in countries where they looked at that like party. you can't center. i all those true and in health care workers in the united states in a big study. however, there is also this part of the equation. according to the data. >> only half of the eligible california residents are vaccinated. >> but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea, but it would be something

theresa talk to doctor peter chin-hong from ucsf. >> here now. i mean, as i'm outside and i'm able to socially distance. i don't have to wear a mask. however, if i go inside to one of the stores here and shop, then i need to be wearing a mask, but that all may change, especially now with the cdc making those changes. >> is this now a sign of the past rather than the president. it appears to be self according to the cdc wearing a face mask, not required indoors anymore. if a person is vaccinated. >> it's in the right direction for the vaccine folks for more than a year. infectious disease specialists like doctor peter chin hong with ucsf spoke about the science behind the mask, how it could best protect people from picking up sars covid 2 or covid-19 when outdoors in especially indoors at grocery stores. retail space or restaurants. and now once again he says the science is dictating changes. >> and as you point out, the science is clear. if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to both get sick. and you know, less likely to transmit. so and in co

peter chin-hong, always great information. that is a little covid-19 stuffy he has behind him and this spice box kitchen book which has all sorts of great recipes good part of our good health in general, right? so, thank you for sharing today, really appreciate it. >>> coming up next, a producer behind some of the most watched shows on television, including a "american idol" will be joining us with her new star- studded public service announceme this unplugged device is protecting our beautiful coastlines and more. put off chores and use less energy from 4 to 9 pm to help keep our state golden. >>> welcome back, mei is american pacific islander heritage month, and if you go to the movies this month at any amc theater, you will see a public service announcement. it takes the aapi hates we have seen lately into joining us to share this joyful video starring haley hollywood a listers is the veteran tv producer who oversaw the "american idol," and a whole lot more, but we don't have time to list them all, wenda fong. thanks for jo

peter chin hong about this concept about whether we can even get to that number, raj. >> yeah, it's not promising in the sense that we want to get to that herd immunity. but now it's about managing expectations. and the expectation is that this country will not have 80% people vaccinated or even 70%. that means covid is here to stay for the next several years. that's most likely. however, it still should be noted according to all your infectious disease specialists, if you do get vaccinated your chance of getting a severe case of covid is very low. >> what it means is life wouldn't completely get back to 100% normal. we can't party like it's 2019 yet, until everybody is immunized, not just in california, but everywhere in the country, everywhere in the world, particularly. as long as there's going to be travel, and there's going to be travel, we want to have a free and open economy, it means that we can't really live in a silo, and that's the only way you can have herd immunity. >> how concerning is it to see india. we are a global business. can that trickle over here to america? >> tha

it could be peter chin hong. >> from ucsf. >> it's not going to be janelle, jeff and raj. >> i like fauci is next from orlando with nightly news. >> we'll see you back here at 6:00, bye. >>> breaking news tonight. president biden calling for a ceasefire in the middle east as the violence intensifies the president facing pressure to act, telling prime minister netanyahu he supports a ceasefire. as the death toll rises. at least 200 palestinians and 10 israelis killed. israel launching new airstrikes on tunnels in gaza. hamas firing over 3,000 rockets in the past week. our richard engel there on the ground. >>> also tonight, california keeping its mask mandate for another month despite that new cdc guidance for fully vaccinated people new york joining the growing list of states lifting mandates but the patchwork of rule

peter chin-hong on the latest on covid-19, vaccines and other issues, dr. chin hong, thanks for hanging on while we had the president and the special report. >> no problem. >> i mean, you are super important, but, you know, it's the president, okay? i want to talk to you a little bit about what happened on june 15th. the state is going to essentially reopen, that means no more capacity limits, even indoors, and the indoor mask mandates will be gone for those who are fully vaccinated. so, that is making some folks quite nervous, right? so i want to ask you about that, whether you are comfortable, and whether come june 15th, you, for one, will not wear your mask any more, let's say when you go to the grocery store. >> i think it's going to be a stage of transition. i think the science is clear for the vaccine, folks they are protected, even in more crowded situations. again, given what the local numbers look like here, which is really low, but, there is a difference between the science and personal comfort. you are right, i think many of us will probably still

doctor peter chin-hong says these findings show that public health leaders need to be ready and prepared to offer several options for those strugglidg. the line on willingness to get the vaccine it's not one size fits all. >> i think caution sentences may appeal to some to others. may just mean that their friends are going to outside lines and you need a vaccine to get in and maybe that might be incentive fathers for others. it might be the vaccine it section and the giants game seemed to have a little bit you liberties and the unvaccinated section here in san francisco. more than 91% of the population received at least one dose of the vaccine. >> and almost 50% of the state has received at least one dose. meanwhile, other states are incentivizing covid-19 vaccinations with everything from free beer to $100 payments for example, west virginia is offering $100 savings bonds to 16 to 35 year olds to get vaccinated in maryland will pay fully vaccinated. state employees. $100. some breweries in new jersey are also giving out free drinks while connecticut and washington, dc or doing something

peter chin-hong, an infectious disease specialist at ucsf. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me on, kristin. always a pleasure. >> 12 to 15-year-olds are getting there shot throughout the bay area at county clinics, drugstores, hospital chains or they can only get pfizer for now, right? >> yes. on the pfizer has submitted and had their data approved. moderna is close on the heels and the next step will be the under 12-year-old. >> okay, so for now, pfizer, as you know two shots, three weeks apart. dr. chin-hong, adults booking right now have quite options here in the bay area. supply is pretty good right now at lots of different sites. because it is only pfizer to the 12 to 15, they are more limited in their vacation locations, it might be start hard to look at times still, right? >> there have been overwhelming appointments because of that bottlenecking, as you put it, kristin. hopefully over time this will diminish again. it is the floodgates opening, a bunch of people, but then our supply is very, very robust. i suspect we will g

17 received both doses of the covid-19 vaccine and ucsf infectious disease specialist doctor peter chin-hong said the results were not surprising the first trial down there in the video also from pfizer is above 16 from moderna is about about 18. so the next phase of moderna was looking at ages of 12 to 17 and like pfizer. it showed in not surprisingly, that it was very, very effective. >> the studies show that moderna's vaccine is 96% effective in pfizer's is 100% effective in their respective age groups and side effects were pretty consistent with what we've seen so pm at the site. maybe some mild feeling fatigued. more after the seconds shot versus the face shot getting people as young as 12 vaccinated will require parental or guardian consent. doctor chin-hong urges parents to get their kids vaccinated when possible. i would really encourage folks and i know that's sometimes an immediate decision is hard to make. but over time, i hope that all parents embraces as something that. >> know, not only protect themselves against his country transmit infection to the grandparents still there in

infectious disease specialists like doctor peter chin hong with ucsf spoke about the science behind the mask, how it could best protect people from picking up sars covid 2 or covid-19 when outdoors in especially indoors at grocery stores. retail space or restaurants. and now once again he says the science is dictating changes. >> and as you point out, the science is clear. if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to both get sick. and you know, less likely to transmit. so and in countries where they looked at that like party. you can center all those true and in health care workers in the united states in a big study. however, there is also this part of the equation. according to the data. >> only half of the eligible california residents are vaccinated. >> but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea, but it would be something that

dr peter chin hong said that even if herd immunity is reached, people will need to learn to live with a much lower strain of covid at some level, note 11 another woman is accusing windsor mayor dominic for poli of sexual misconduct. former sonoma mayor rachel huntley told the chronicle that for poli climbed on top of her and exposed himself inside a hotel room six years ago, she said the incident followed a night of drinking while the tour in sacramento for conference for government officials. so far, seven women have accused for poli of sexual assault. he has denied all of the allegations, police in san jose are investigating a stabbing. it happened at about four o'clock this afternoon on south second and margaret streets that's less than a mile from the san jose state campus. police say one man was taken to the hospital. he is expected to be okay. there's no word yet on what led up to the stabbing or if anyone has been arrested. and his ktvu is jerry. guess jerry. just jerry tells us now it's been a violent weekend in san jose after a deadly shooting there last night. san jose polic

17 received both doses of the covid-19 vaccine and ucsf infectious disease specialist doctor peter chin-hongts were not surprising the first trial down there in the video also from pfizer is above 16 from moderna is about about 18. so the next phase of moderna was looking at ages of 12 to 17 and like pfizer. it showed in not surprisingly, that it was very, very effective. the studies show that moderna's vaccine is 96% effective in pfizer's is 100% effective in their respective age groups and side effects were pretty consistent with what we've seen so painted the sites. maybe some mild feeling fatigued. more after the seconds shot versus the face shot getting people as young as 12 vaccinated will require parental or guardian consent. doctor chin-hong urges parents to get their kids vaccinated when possible. i would really encourage folks and i know that's sometimes an immediate decision is hard to make. but over time, i hope that all parents embrace as as something that cannot not only protect themselves against his country

infectious disease specialists like doctor peter chin hong with ucsf spoke about the science behind the mask, how it could best protect people from picking up sars covid 2 or covid-19 when outdoors in especially indoors at grocery stores. retail space or restaurants. and now once again he says the science is dictating changes. >> and as you point out, the science is clear. if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to both get sick. and you know, less likely to transmit. so and in countries where they looked at that like party. you can center all those true and in health care workers in the united states in a big study. however, there is also this part of the equation. according to the data. >> only half of the eligible california residents are vaccinated. >> but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea, but it would be something that

17 received both doses of the covid-19 vaccine and ucsf infectious disease specialist doctor peter chin-honglts were not surprising the first trial down there in the video also from pfizer is above. >> 16 from moderna is about about 18. so the next phase of moderna was looking at ages of 12 to 17 and like pfizer. it showed in not surprisingly, that it was very, very effective. >> the studies show that moderna's vaccine is 96% effective in pfizer's is 100% effective in their respective age groups and side effects were pretty consistent with what we've seen so pm at the site. maybe some mild feeling fatigued. more after the seconds shot versus the face shot, getting people as young as 12 vaccinated will require parental or guardian consent. >> doctor chin-hong urges parents to get their kids vaccinated when possible. i would really encourage folks and i know that's sometimes an immediate decision is hard to make. but over time, i hope that all parents embraces as something that, know, not only protect themselves against his country transmit infection to the grandparents to older individuals bu

doctor peter chin. hong with ucsf says he is not ready to tell people to stop wearing their masks. >> but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea, but it would be something that people suddenly do. all of a sudden. >> right now. the mask mandate in the state is fully vaccinated californians can go without a mask and outdoor settings except if it's a mass gathering like a sporting event or something where you're near a lot of people and will. that's where just talk about walking down the street by myself. a go for a hike. asking my pocket, but i'm not around people if i am. i'm way more 6 feet their pass and a half. so you give the wave and that that's where i feel comfortable. >> they should have t-shirts or something that say that you're vaccinated beca

a local infectious disease specialist doctor peter chin-hong says that shouldn't deter parents from gettingtheir child vaccinated. >> i would really encourage folks and i know that's sometimes an immediate. decision is hard to make. but over time, i hope that all parents embraces something that, know, not only protect themselves against his country transmit infection to the grandparents still there in videos. but to protect kids themselves as well. >> now both pfizer and moderna are expected to submit their findings to the fda in the coming weeks, which means all children as young as 12 could soon be vaccinated. moderna's study on the pediatric population, ages 6 months to 11 years is still ongoing. now have more on this coming up on kron 4 news at 5 as well as on our streaming service kronon download that for free in your app store. just seen. thank you so much. we go now to the east bay. >> we're representative eric swalwell was in livermore today visiting a company that has developed a rapid covid-19 test can force. charles clifford has details. >> at the start of the coronavirus pandemi

for more on this with a local infectious disease specialist doctor peter chin-hong from ucsf. and san francisco in marin county could move into the yellow tier tomorrow. that means capacity limits and most businesses will go up bars would be able to open indoors at 25%. outdoor venues could increase capacity to 67% and amusement parks could allow 35% capacity. health officials say they are assessing the situation and will make a decision tomorrow. the month of may is asian pacific american heritage month and a kick things off state and san francisco leaders gathered in the city to celebrate the asian community over the weekend. a general, rob bonta was also there after his full first full week, rather as the state's attorney general bonta said his office. we'll work to address hate crimes and encourage more people to come forward. senator scott wiener also joined the crowd on sunday condemning the violence against the asian community working with law enforcement to make sure they know how to identify and investigate. >> i hate crimes. so that perpetrators i can be held account

doctor peter chin-hong says these findings show that public health leaders need to be ready and preparedoffer several options for those struggling. the line on willingness to get the vaccine it's not one size fits all. >> i think caution sentences may appeal to some to others. may just mean that their friends are going to outside lines and you need a vaccine to get in and maybe that might be incentive fathers for others. it might be the vaccinated section and the giants game seemed to have a little bit you liberties and the unvaccinated section here in san francisco. more than 91% of the population received at least one dose of the vaccine. >> and almost 50% of the state has received at least one dose. meanwhile, other states are incentivizing covid-19 vaccinations with everything from free beer to $100 payments for example, west virginia is offering $100 savings bonds to 16 to 35 year olds who get vaccinated in maryland will pay fully vaccinated. state employees. $100. some breweries in new jersey are also giving out free drinks while connecticut and washington, dc or doing something si

doctor peter chin-hong as with ucsf. it says the numbers are cause for concern. it is a big stark difference sit could communities and the area. and when we look at the average number, it looks really good. but again, when you dig down deeper and you see differences again, i think they're very telling cause us to take some chin-hong says in order for the threat to fully go away. leaders must find a way to close the gap and the numbers through continued messages and even possibly incentives. but he understands why many in underserved communities may be hesitant to roll up their sleeves. >> above all, i think there's still a lot of mistrust, son and husband see in some that continues to need to be addressed. i think it's not a easy situation. >> vicki grant, you have so many factors and variables that go into this and now we're dealing with the vaccines being available appointments dumping field. but some of these sites are going to close very soon. so that now throws another wrinkle into what happens when these vaccines are going to be there, folks. still not goin

infectious disease specialists like doctor peter chin hong with ucsf spoke about the science behind the mask, how it could best protect people from picking up sars covid 2 or covid-19 when outdoors in especially indoors at grocery stores. retail space or restaurants. and now once again he says the science is dictating changes. >> and as you point out, the science is clear. if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to both get sick. and you know, less likely to transmit. so and in countries where they looked at that like party. you can't center. i all those true and in health care workers in the united states in a big study. however, there is also this part of the equation. according to the data. >> only half of the eligible california residents are vaccinated. >> but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea, but it would be something

infectious disease specialist doctor peter chin-hong says that public health leaders need to be prepared to offer options to encourage those who are on the line. >> use caution senses, believe it or not, in other settings say encourage folks to sexually transmitted infections screening and some other interventions. so they do work. >> so you say it's not unusual even though you might not have heard of something like giving cash for getting shot or doing some kind of well medical studies using pizza. all the texture free of baseball tickets. this survey found that people have much more willingness. >> in that, you know, when you give them you know and the fact that the incentive, james, not just getting them something, but yeah, they get their freedom. >> because we're seeing more and more that do more right. you can do. we're all you can go to this game if you got your shot in this event. if you've got your shot, you. >> all right. 5.27, is the time coming up in the next segment of the kron 00:00am morning news, a call for a grand jury investigation into the conduct of a sonoma countyn m

doctor peter chin. hong with ucsf says that's a good thing. he's not ready to tell people to ditch the masks. >> but the question is who 1pfigures out who is vaccine an who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea. but it would be something that people suddenly do. all of a sudden. >> the current rules statewide are that if you are fully vaccinated, you can go outside and be outside new things without a mask. unless you're in an area where there are other a lot of people, you know, in like a sporting event or a performance or a festival or something. >> 2 women are working together to educate spanish and english speaking kids about the vaccine and encourage them to get their shot. they're helping families across the state and right here in the bay area to reduce language barriers, fears and misinformation crown for us to let the second track th

infectious disease specialists like doctor peter chin hong with ucsf spoke about the science behind the mask, how it could best protect people from picking up sars covid 2 or covid-19. >> when outdoors in especially indoors at grocery stores. retail space or restaurants. and now once again he says the science is dictating changes. >> and as you point out, the census. claire, if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to both get sick. and you know, less likely to transmit. so and in countries where they looked at that like party. you can't center all those true and in health care workers in the united states in a big study. however, there is also this part of the equation. according to the data. >> only half of the eligible california residents are vaccinated. >> but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologi'ally. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea, but it would be something t

peter chin hong. infectious disease specialist at ucsf. doctor, nice to see you again. this is an emotional mother's day for a lot of people. this was a real first family gathering. walk us through it now. if we are fully vaccinated, what do we need to know about indoor or outdoor brunch? >> so, in general, raj, i would say, keep it as simple as possible. have as many things outdoors as you can. it's going to be a beautiful weekend. and if you are vaccinated, it's very different world than if you are unvaccinated. >> and if i'm not vaccinated, or members of my family aren't fully vaccinated, are they just to keep that mask on even at brunch outside? >> so, if -- if everyone's vaccinated, except for a few individuals, and those individuals come from one or two households. it's going to be fine. you can commingle even indoors if the size is modest. you are not going to have a multigenerational, huge family reunion. but if the size is modest, say, like, less than ten people, it's going to be okay. in a mixed setting if they come from one household, unvaccinated folks. outd

doctor peter chin. hong with ucsf says he's not ready to tell people to ditch the mask. >> but the question is who figures out who is vaccine and who is not vaccinated and that's where problem it's this year is, of course, you know, i know the science psychologically. are we ready to just throw a on mask up in the air. and i think what will happen is people of gradually get used to the idea, but it would be something that people suddenly do. all of a sudden. >> right now. the state rules are that you if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. in most outdoor settings except for, you know, there's a ton of people around. if you're at some kind of a big event. other than that, you're a hike in. you're walking, you're good. >> as the bay area ways for updated mask guidelines. the effort to get kids vaccinated. that's picking up as well as more options are available for kids. 12 years and older. yeah. and now they're able to get the pfizer shot kron 4. sarah stinson is live in san francisco with more

doctor peter chin-hong says this means public health leaders need to be prepared to offer several optionsurage those straddling the line on willingness to get the vaccine. it's not one size fits all. i think caution sentences may appeal to some to others. it may just mean that their friends are going to outside lines and you need a vaccine to get in and maybe that might be incentive for others. it might be the vaccinated section and the giants game seemed to have a little bit >> you liberties and the unvaccinated section here in san francisco. more than 91% of the population received at least one dose of the vaccine. >> and almost 50% of the state has received at least one dose. meanwhile, other states are incentivizing covid-19 vaccinations with everything from free beer to $100 payments for example, west virginia is offering $100 savings bonds to 16 to 35 year olds who get vaccinated in maryland will pay fully vaccinated. state employees. $100. some breweries in new jersey are also giving out free drinks while connecticut and washington, dc or doing something similar, even large compani

doctor peter chin-hong as with ucsf. it says the numbers are cause for concern. is a big stark difference sit could communities and the area. and when we look at the average number, it looks really good. but again, when you dig down deeper and you see differences again, i think they're very telling cause us to take some chin-hong says in order for the threat to fully go away. leaders must find a way to close the gap and the numbers through continued messages and even possibly incentives. but he understands why many in underserved communities may be hesitant to roll up their sleeves. >> above all, i think there's still a lot of mistrust, son and husband see in some that continues to need to be addressed. i think it's not a easy situation. >> another frustrating part. according to doctor chin-hong is the fact that vaccines are readily available had a number of vaccination centers. but folks simply are not going to get them. he says the next challenge will be actually going into those communities and making sure that people are indeed vaccinated. jonathan mccall kro