peter clark goes to loaves and fishes every day. >> i've been existing on food stamps since june of last year. that's it, no money. you know, it's a living. >> reporter: hope and mission is to never turn anyone away. loaves and fishes has three locations spread across san jose, where volunteers prepare and serve about 500 hearty meals each day. much of the food comes from the food bank of santa clara county, which serves nearly 400,000 people a year. but for nonprofit organizations, the economic times are difficult. the city has cut $50,000 a year it was giving to fishes, plus county funding for the kitchen is down by 40%. this isn't the only agency starving for money. this year alone, three pantries and one homeless shelter have closed down in santa clara county. loaves and fishes volunteer manager mia white is worried about the survival of the kitchen and the people it serves. >> we are hopeful we can still provide our services, but without us, we have a lot of families that say they wouldn't have dinner. and for some of the folks that come in, this is the only meal they have all day.

haven and did you speak to peter clarke about their investigation? [talking over each other] >> given evidence -- i think this was -- >> he said everything was fine. we had a decent conservation -- the decision in terms of how it was managed. i think i referred in the letter to a range of issues before hand. that are used before coming -- >> mr. michael? >> the new investigation from new evidence and you got that respect or from the general concern that would indicate the need to take a fresh look at the evidence. in september of 2010 you were unable to tell me if the investigation was taking place at that time. was there? >> we were escaping the information that had been published in the new york times on september 3rd last year. again, it was a very interesting -- in terms of, that was managed in terms of the level of cooperation we had. >> was there a lot of investigation? >> it was a skateing study for advice and terms of whether they thought there was a requirement of the investigation of the letter of a last paragraph of my letter saying they k

you knew obviously about the peter clarke investigation.even knew about the yates investigation because i think that you organize the press to be outside scotland yard, or your department did when he made his statement saying that he was not taking matters further. why did you employ him knowing this? >> i want to be as open and helpful as akin to the committee, but as you will be aware on a couple hours ago -- [inaudible] for investigation. i have not been able to take advice in the times i hope that you'll bear with me and perhaps guide me. [inaudible] spent all of our witnesses have been referred to the independent commission and that didn't stop the commissioner, so you can take your guidance of him. this is a committee of parliament which is sovereign, and we can take evidence where ever we want and tell summit is charged with a criminal offense and there's no risk of you being charged, is the? >> i don't believe so. >> so you're free to answer our questions because the point i may, i have not had the opportunity of independent advice

tenure of foreign affairs there was many, many questions of news of the world, you knew of the peter clarke investigation and the yates i think -- investigation because you organized the press outside the yard because he was not taking matters further. why did you employ him knowing this? >> i'm very keen to be as open and helpful as i can for the committee today, but, as you will be aware, only a couple hours ago i was informed that i'm referred to the police commission for investigation. i have not been able to take legal advice in that time, so i hope you'll bear with me and guide me if i'm straying to areas that make more questions in the future. >> all our witnesses are referred to the independent commission, and that didn't stop the commissioner so you can take your guidance from him. >> thank you. >> it's a committee of parliament which is sovereign, and we can take evidence from anybody we want, and there's no risk of you being charged, is there? >> i don't believe so. >> feel free to answer the questions. >> i have not had the opportunity to have legal advice. >> if you could answe

peter clark, his reputation as an investigator is tenacious, he kept his cards close to his chest becausetle bit like falling through the rabbit hole i have to say. you have said in the in the original investigation no stone was left unturned, and something which this committee is rather unsure about is exactly why there was a decision not to have an exhaustive analysis of the 11,000 documents which were in the position of the police from 2006, and why there was no assessment of any additional victims you might expect if have been identified in that or perpetrators. can you explain to the committee your role in that decision and your assessment of that role? >> i sat in the back and listened to and i can see where you're coming from on that. i had no involvement in that decision. i think there was also evidence there were people who went through but in the parameters set forth in this investigation. >> [inaudible] he made the decision himself without -- >> but he came to have meetings with you you would have discussed the portfolio of discussions i would assume and would have discussed wh

peter clark? spread the inquiry with news international because of the cooperation more broadly. and you've heard concert -- conversations about this is your. following the arrest, a large enough amount of information was seized. i've been told that it amounted to 11,000 pages. "news international" was offering no an investigation. the only avenue for further investigation would of been to that material per week considered an exhaustive analysis of this material paired with decided against it for the following reasons. >> who said that? >> me in my fellow investigators. >> or the other people you're talking to? >> the hierarchy of the commander and a range of other colleagues who are actually there. >> proceed. >> given the wider context of counter-terrorism with immediate threats to the british public, involving gross breaches of privacy but no apparent threat of physical harm to the public, i could not justify the huge expense of resources of a protected period. a team of officers were detailed to examine the documents and identify potential victims were there might be security

the conduct of two former senior officers understood to be andy hayman and peter clark and their rolein past hacking investigations. the mayor of london said that two top officers resignations have been inevitable. >> there is absolutely nothing that has been proven against the probety or the professionalism of either man. while in both cases we have to recognize that the nexus of questions about the relationship between the met and "the news of the world" was likely to be distracting to both officers in the run-up to the olympic games. >> two chiefs gone in two days. the met is in turmoil tonight. some inside the organization and others who recently left this, is an opportunity to break the ties with the murdoch press. yates has had his critics angry about his closeness to "news international" people and the new broom can't be vigorous enough. >> i'm sure there are very good and very honest officers within the met to the highest level that wanted to see this cleared out and wanted to get rid of those people who they thought perhaps were too close to the press. >> it seems for the pol

peter clark? spread the inquiry with news international because of the cooperation more broadly.'ve heard concert -- conversations about this is your. following the arrest, a large enough amount of information was seized. i've been told that it amounted to 11,000 pages. "news international" was offering no an investigation. the only avenue for further investigation would of been to that material per week considered an exhaustive analysis of this material paired with decided against it for the following reasons. >> who said that? >> me in my fellow investigators. >> or the other people you're talking to? >> the hierarchy of the commander and a range of other colleagues who are actually there. >> proceed. >> given the wider context of counter-terrorism with immediate threats to the british public, involving gross breaches of privacy but no apparent threat of physical harm to the public, i could not justify the huge expense of resources of a protected period. a team of officers were detailed to examine the documents and identify potential victims were there might be security concern

what the policeman peter clark is saying that the initial tip-off was that prince william's phone was that narrow parameter of investigation who is hacking into the phone and that resulted in a news world reporter and private investigation being jailed. the key brouk down they didn't look at the wider picture of the 11,000 pages of evidence they gathered it wasn't just the royal family, it was pretty much everyone in the british establishment here including now, as we know, the former prime minister gordon brown, even the queen being targeted and pligoliticians, sports star actors. gordon brown hit out today suggestions that his personal details were accessed not through his telephone but people ringing up pretending to be him at his bank and trying to gain access to property deals he was doing by calling up his lawyers. even getting access to his son's medical records to get a story. now "news international" saying they got those medical records without breaking the law but gordon brown is furious. here is what he said. >> i think what happened pretty early on in the government is th