with me is reverend peter clark, director of spiritual care services at uc san francisco health. you have been there eight years now. welcome to mosaic. >> thank you. it's good to be here. >> it's wonderful to have you here. i recently found myself at the hospital for two weeks. i wasn't hospitalized but i was with a family member hospitalized. not once at that particular hospital did anyone offer a chaplain or spiritual care services. it made me wonder how prevalent spiritual care services are at hospitals and how does one access a chaplain if one wants to see a chaplain? >> chaplains are available at most large hospitals. in most cases, if a family member or patient wanted to speak with a chaplain it would be as simple as telling your nurse or physician you would like to speak with a chaplain. different hospitals have different staffing ratios. some are very fully staffed with chaplains like ucsf and other hospitals that are smaller may have one or two to cover the entire patient census which can make it difficult for the chaplain to see each and every patient. >> of course. th

i am with pastor peter clark, director of spiritual care services at uc san francisco. we are learning about hospital chaplains and this important ministry that's integral to healthcare in hospitals. you have seen a lot of patients. you have provided pastoral care yourself. what have you learned about the human spirit? >> well it really is true for many of us, the spirit is a very resilient thing in us. it helps us to deal with a lot of crises and stress that can come our way. like anything that is resilient, it has a stretching point beyond which it can break. so part of the work that chaplains and social workers and others on the healthcare team can do is to help bolster people's spirit so we don't get patients beyond that breaking point. what i have learned is how important hope is for people. there is a french philosopher who says that hope is for the soul what breathing is for the living organism. so if we are there to help somebody who is in serious distress, part of our task is to help them to find their sense of hope even in the desperate time. because that's go

and around the world are worried about john thank you for joining us by skype from ottawa is peter clarke is an international trade strategist at a geopolitical trade consultancy pizza clock so donald trump has now signed off on these tariffs this was an election pledge and trumps clearly being tough on trade why now do you think. there are a number of elections coming in and steal states and he also wants to get this done before the mid-term elections and he wants to demonstrate it will keep his promise through middle class workers and trying to says he'll hold off on imposing tariffs on canada mexico wants he negotiates a better deal on nafta just broaden that out for us what's the thinking behind that . well he hasn't been able to negotiate the type of tougher deal that he's wanted he's trying to put pressure on canada to do this and on mexico canada and mexico are going to keep the exemption they're not going to cave in to us and then suddenly after they're just stay at the table keep doing their work and see what happens and as all reports are that john hendren was saying in washingt

peter clarke who was then head of counterterrorism police talks about this, what an enormous learningarning that what had happened is that the russians had come over and killed someone on the streets of london who had just become a british citizen. that was a while ago, 12 yea rs citizen. that was a while ago, 12 years ago no. but there will be people who have that, the experiences and learning from that who will go into this. i think this will be easierfor them who will go into this. i think this will be easier for them if it does turn out that there is any russian involvement. but the specifics of the alexander litvenenko case, it was a radioactive substance, left this trail around europe and restau ra nts this trail around europe and restaurants in london and arsenal stadium. in this case it will be different. it does not appear to be that sort of substance. whether or not they get as much assistance from the substance used as then, is not known. it has taken them a while to work it out. for the moment, thank you very much indeed. let's get more on this now. we can speak to peterja

clark. nfl free agency starts later next week. peter to lose tight end and defensive tackle bo allen. several offers for nick foles and the birds have turned down a second round pick for him. looking for at least what they got for sam radford. here is carson wentz rehabbing. video from his body guard. expect carson to be ready for the season. phillies have won through of four. and reese haskins second homer of the spring. 1-0 nothing. new philly santana. franco up next. bringing home another one. phillies beat the twins 4-3. i am john clark and we will be right back. thanks for coming in today. when it comes to planning for retirement, i get this a lot. first comes denial. not worried. plenty of time and money. then anger. why didn't i start saving years ago?? then fear. what am i gonna do now? bargaining. what if i start saving more next year. then, acceptance. we should get started. ♪ ♪ ask me how a citizens retirement checkup® can help you reach your potential. ♪ ♪ >>> people are still reeling from storm number one. >> this is a wet

stephon clark raising questions about what sacramento police say happened the night he was chased down and shot. >>> also happening now, pope francis preparing for tonight's easter vigil at st. peter's. his holiness presided over 20,000 people last night for good friday. security is going to be noticeably increased throughout the weekend as the pope continues to commemorate easter weekend. if you're joining us this saturday morning, we want to say happy easter weekend. happy passover. >> happy passover as well. >> holy weekend. >> yes. >>> coming up on the show, the governator going under the knife. the condition that forced arnold schwarzenegger to have emergency surgery. we're going to talk about that. >>> we want to start though with more fallout from a twitter war between a fox news host, laura ingraham, and a survivor of the shooting at the parkland high school. >> over a dozen companies have pulled out of her show so far. ingraham now saying she's taking a vacation next week and abc's kenneth moton joins us with more. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, paula and dan. is this break in response to that fallout or is this a planned vacation? either way laura ingraham's anno