with us now the ceo of the conditioner peter darbee. have you with us. >> happy to be here. >> on the heels of that letter, on the heels of the withdrawal from membership of the u.s. chamber of commerce, have you gone to any other companies that have said to you, hey, peter, good job, we're with you, we're also withdrawing our membership? >> no, melissa, not yet. what i have received is an overwhelming number of e-mails from a variety of people saying we agree with you, we applaud your courage, and we really respect what you did. >> is it not just -- i mean, you are a natural gas player, and so it's beneficial to you to obviously have natural gas be the -- over fossil fuel be the energy choice. is that really -- some would say that colored your opinion over this conflict with the chamber. >> well, we don't develop natural gas. we only use natural gas. so in fact, it's not clear that it's to our advantage necessarily to move to cleaner alternatives. in fact, it could drive up the cost of natural gas, which would be disadvantageous for us