and china could derail the initiative, we are joined by peter elstrom. , many of the companies, peter, as a result of this initiative in china, are thriving. how does this stand up -- this trade war impact them? peter: they need to be aware of the potential problems with the trade tensions with the u.s. in terms of tariffs, it will cause certain things to get more expensive. the real challenge for some of the chinese technology companies is if they are not able to get the components they need from the u.s., the supplies they need from the u.s. we saw this with zte in particular, where they were not able to get semiconductors from the u.s. and some optical component parts, so they are aware of that. in the meantime, the 2025 initiative is moving forward in the cities which are really responsible for implement in this. they are moving very aggressively. look upto nanjing to close at their efforts to foster some of these key technology efforts. they focused on artificial intelligence and semiconductors. they are very aggressive. the party chief talked about