the biggest threat -- one of our board members, peter fenton, likes to say in a class we co-teach ining, people -- it's proven it's of value to the world, and now it's just a matter of -- >> charlie: especially to the mobile world. >> it's built for mobile. mobile is in it's dna. we made it for mobile. so it's just a matter of trucking along. >> charlie: you still do the oxford lecture? >> i still do it. i've expanded that to not just the said school of business but exeter at oxford and the center for corporate reputation at o oxford as well. and berkeley and stanford and some other places. >> charlie: good to see you, business. >> pleasure. wonderful to talk to you. >> charlie: "things a little bird told me, confessions of a creative mind" by biz stone. thank you for joining us. see you next time. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org larriva: it's like holy mother of comfort food.ion. woman: throw it down. it's noodle crack. patel: you have to be ready for the heart attack on a platter. crowell: okay, i'm the bacon guy.