peter, what i found extraordinary was he actually came out specifically against that 2015 figure saying that the fed is going to have to raise rates before 2015, most likely it will do that. now, richard fisher'sn on this program many times with criticisms but has never been that specific. these are the most specific criticisms of the last qe that i've ever seen. >> reporter: yeah, i would agree. and, listen, this was a very beefy, meaty speech by president plosser. it was 11 pages. it was full of policy, a lot of academic arguments as well on why this may or may not work. he momentum think it will -- he doesn't think it will. and, of course, he is very concerned about inflation, he is an inflation hawk, so he wanted to make sure that he laid down his marker once again in this debate as it goes forward, and he also wants to talk to the public about the possible risks of all this to help them navigate all this down the road. liz: and it is a debate because boston fed's president gave you an exclusive interview a week ago, and in the essence he said, quote: qe will help. i think it'll have a material impact, and there are a number of ways it can happen, one is the housing market. and he went on