peter fisher has a more optimistic outlook.in rates -- adjusted rates -- what is the environment mean? >> step back and think clearly about real borrowing costs. 100 years ago, if a kansas corn farmer faced falling prices of corn, his income was falling and his debt payments were fixed. that debt burden went up. the factory worker had rising really income. we have to think clearly about what it means to borrow. business today have positive operating margins, 10% or better. the army are borrowing money for free. not because inflation is low -- we have to untangle that. >> bringing microeconomics into the view -- let's take the germans. a weaker euro is a plus for germany. these are good things. >> that is unquestionably a good thing. not a good thing from the low yields in europe. they make money on the term premium. the spread between short-term and long-term. when it gets flat it's hard for a lender to make money. the credit side of the economy does not perform well. that is the gamble with qe >>. do you look for more mario dr