peter giuliani told fox yesterday we can follow up on the story we are going to cover he said the steel memorandum was written in ukraine. what do you how do you react to that i am not surprised because ukraine is not a land of the miracles anything can come from there including in christopher steele's dossier it tells me that you know it when you get involved in business practices quote unquote business practices in ukraine it's called corruption here now you get involved in ukrainian politics and someone somewhere somewhere. somehow i was going to be accused of collusion here finish it off i said mostly well if you are jeff bezos and you have billions but you support the right people you are and then to paranoia if you have some money and you met with a lot of other portion and you didn't speak to his face you are an oligarch that's the difference between already gox and the top or no us in the view of the mainstream press 20 seconds alex 20 seconds. biden's going to have to face the music peter hunter biden was heavily involved in ukraine he was heavily involved in . the john kerry f

giuliani is pretty open about it. he openly told ken vogel this is what he's doing. he's not hiding it. it's not a secret, but it's pretty unusual. >> peteraker, you're the master of the understatement. you don't see that every day. i would say so. here's what giuliani told the "times" about this. he says, we're not meddling in an election. we're meddling in an investigation which he says we have a right to do. he says there's nothing else little about it. somebody could say it's improper. he goes on to say, this isn't foreign policy. i'm asking them to do an investigation they're doing already and that other people are telling them to stop. it goes on to say, this could be very, very helpful to my client. somebody could say it's improper. what say the two of you? >> i feel as though somebody we ought to be able to agree on at this point is that american presidential elections probably ought not involve the soviet union or former soviet states. why don't we just have american politics involve americans. >> what's really interesting is the individual that is leading the giuliani trip is a ukrainian businessman that basically gave the trump

giuliani who as peter said, he's someone who has come into donald trump's orbit.e has been caught by the gravitational pull of the habitual lying and the president's salesmanship. you know, sometimes i wonder if donald trump isn't the greatest salesman in the world, and if he isn't capable of persuading otherwise regular human beings to hand over their reputations, to flush away their place in history in service to a cause that is really rotten. and so now we have mr. barr, whose place in history has been forever soiled, and we have rudy giuliani who is no longer america's mayor, no one someone we remember for 9/11, but someone who is regarded as a joke. so he is attorney as salesperson. >> the question is did people give barr too much credit in the first place considering his reputation from other presidents in the past. listen, i'll ask that to my next panel. i've got to go. we have a bunch of people waiting. but i appreciate your patience and your time. thank you, gentlemen. the robert mueller objecting to the attorney general's description of his report hours

. >> peter baker, frank figliuzzi describing the comments today as a green light. he joins jared kushner and rudy giuliani who alarmed investigators, saying i didn't commit any crimes but i'm going to join christopher wray and others protecting the democracd. here are the comments that raised eyebrows. >> nothing wrong with taking information from russias. it depends on where it came from. >> quite frankly the whole thing is a big distraction for the country. look at what russia did, buying some facebook ads to sow dissent, it's a terrible thing but the speculation and things that have happened the last two years have had a much harsher impact on our democracy. >> that's the administration's position. the president doesn't raise the attack. jar ed says a couple facebook ads and rudy says there's nothing wrong with taking information from russians. >> a surprise to politicians in previous eras. i can't think of a time when they would have taken information from russians. not just russians but those advertised from the russian government. remember the trump tower meeting that was so famous was specifically

peter swietser wrote about joe biden allegedly doing a favor that benefitted his son. we are having the conversation. we have had the conversation friday and all through the weekend. he probably decided, rudy giuliani he could stop the charade of saying he was going for that reason. did he want the ukrainian investigation to yield something? i doubt it. he wanted it to be a liability for joe biden >> you're on to something for sure. one thing i want to make clear is rudy giuliani didn't just invent this last week. he's been pitching this hard to anyone who will listen to him for some time. this is a cause for him. i don't expect him to back off. he may not make the pitch to ukrainian lawmakers because it's unclear what he expected to get out of that. this is something he's pitching hard right now. by even suggests he wanted the new ukrainian leader to start the investigation now it seems a little bit like meddling. yes? >> yes, it does. ask yourself if joe biden opted not to run, would we be having this conversation? would mayor giuliani be proposing going to the ukraine to ask for an investigation? it's all evidence of the concern by the trump white house about the biden strength he's exhibited ou