michael tom alski, chloe angyal and peter goodman.te voters as an actual voting bloc, because are you guys are complicated as a group. >> we don't think of white presidents. that george w. bush, that's it. i'm not voting for another white president. barack obama has to carry this label. not just an african-american who got elected president, so much of what he does is seen through the lens. not to make light of your question. your fundamental question comes back to something mike said in an earlier segment which is people of color, by and large, already knew. that this economy had been dysfunctional. particularly amongst lesser educa educated, lower skills working people who long before we got into the great recession were having a hard time just getting work and bringing home enough money to pay the bills. a lot of white voters on the other hand, have found themselves over the last eight, ten, 12 years now increasingly in that group of people for whom the middle class dream doesn't work anymore, and a lot of those people were happy t

and peter goodman, business editor for the huffington post. he's written a cover story in the premiere issue of "huffington post" magazine about obama's relationship with young voters. thank you both for being here this evening. >> thank you. >> glad to be here. >> bob, let me start with you. clearly the obama campaign is going on the offensive again -- to the bain's capital ties to outsourcing. is that biden appeal effective? >> i think it is tremendous will you effective. i think it is going to hurt romney very badly. you know, the establishment in the port look down on the obama campaign. criticized it when it started doing this. and i think what they are doing is they are weaving a narrative ark here that says the guy destroyed jobs, made money in business. the guy outsourced jobs, made money in business. 47th in job creation as governor in massachusetts. this narrative ark will con all the way through medicare and proposal is on taxes and the republicans blocking jobs bills in congress. i can tell you having looked a lot of polling -- lot

>> it's a great piece by peter goodman on the fact that the youth vote, the youth enthusiasm, towardse moment. and that's a big concern for the obama campaign. you know, the young people went away -- >> why not? why aren't they there? >> because basically what he promised was to go to washington and do things differently and achieve different results. remember, the great line in the denver speech, you know, basically saying that continue to do the same thing in the same way, bringing in the same players, is a definition of insanity. his version of that. >> did he do that? >> he did that. he brought in the same players, they did the same things. he bought into the whole austerity package, including the rhetoric, he attacked wall street. >> exception, of course, is peter. peter was the bright shining star. >> peter at the time was a upon austerity -- >> no, no, no. that's not -- >> here we go. >> it's amazing how -- look. i have always been in favor of this combo policy and the people who think that if you're in favor of long-term deficit reduction, therefore, you're in favorite of imme