[applause] hayden: thank you peter, and it is a joy to spend time just talking about books. they do have to give us the hook. i was so glad that you also mentioned that c-span selected the 10 books. brinkley: not the library of congress. the idea that c-span come up working with the library of congress, has to talk about books that matter, and these are 10 to get us going. everybody has one that they wish to be on the list, mine would have been henry david thoreau's walden, because of the environmental part of that book. but i think we have a good list and really interesting variety that covers the span of american history. hayden: with this partnership, as teacher -- peter mentioned that, i have to ask you, what books shaped you as a historian? brinkley: one that really moved me was john steinbeck's the grapes of wrath, where he called 66 the road of flight. i remember reading that book when i was young, his description of oklahomans migrated to california after the dustbowl ravaged the great plains, and the idea that automobile workers, some enjoy going down route 66, some