alongside me, the columnist for the mail on sunday, peter hitchens , and on sunday, peter hitchens, ande . the pr consultant alex deane. now, do you know the lord's prayer ? you might be surprised prayer? you might be surprised to learn. the way, there's to learn. by the way, there's more one version it. more than one version of it. there's modern version as there's a new modern version as well. anyway, do you know well. but anyway, do you know any archbishop of any of them? the archbishop of york, stephen cottrell, york, reverend stephen cottrell, now says that starting the lord's prayer with our father , lord's prayer with our father, depher is problematic for abuse victims . now, i've got to say , victims. now, i've got to say, there's a there's a train of thought here, which is about the evolution of language. i'm a little bit cynical , and i think little bit cynical, and i think that what's happening here, though, perhaps is the church realising that numbers of attendees in decline . so now attendees are in decline. so now what they're trying to is what they're trying to do is shuf