twoy agree situation as opposed to america, pam<peter hitchens . two wrongs with peter hitchens.ht. will you speak about wrongs? let's talk about the nhs, the management, right? in this case of lucy letby, it's pretty staggering. so many details coming out now, so many different concerns. flags of various different levels of management within the hospitals and the trust. very little action taken. people saying let's involve the police. no, we don't to involve the no, we don't want to involve the police. you don't want blue tape all over your unit and so on and so forth. letby left in so forth. lucy letby left in perth a very time and perth for a very long time and perhaps shouldn't have been. perhaps she shouldn't have been. what's happen? there's what's going to happen? there's lots an inquiry lots of talk about an inquiry and that would take and what form that would take criminal prosecutions though for the wrong in the the people that did wrong in the nhs. or not? the people that did wrong in the nhffirst or not? the people that did wrong in the nhffirst of or not? the people

peter hitchens. alex dean along side. we've just been talking about dangerous dogs.t a lot says, michelle, you've got a lot of negative stories about dogs, but what about all the great stories? what about guide dogs, for example, hospitals for example, hospital hospitals use to sniff out serious use dogs to sniff out serious diseases . dogs help autistic diseases. dogs help autistic people , disabled children, and people, disabled children, and they give so much joy and they open up their lives. therapy dogs , she says, are incredible , dogs, she says, are incredible, barry says when it comes to dangerous dogs , owners, he says, dangerous dogs, owners, he says, are always to blame. now, let's speak hospital, shall we? because apparently some hospitals are threatened. employees with disciplinary action if they have the audacity. everyone wait for it to use the wrong pronoun. as i have to say, i find this absolutely absurd . and as absolutely absurd. and as a medical professional, you just want to help somebody as best you can and all these layers of ridiculousness . i

the sentence that she receives with peter hitchens the former peter hitchens and the former barristerx dean, as well. on monday . i'm fascinated to hear monday. i'm fascinated to hear that conversation because personally, ask me, personally, if you ask me, i think the penalty is the think the death penalty is the way should be going way we should be going towards people this . i suspect that people like this. i suspect that some of you at home might have a different view to me, but you know what? pure evil . lucy know what? pure, pure evil. lucy letby my thoughts, my heart letby and my thoughts, my heart is with all of the families that know they've been affected. but also the families that are going to bed tonight wondering whether or have been affected or not there have been affected with the deaths of their children to there are no words . children to there are no words. it's just utter, utter evil . i'm it's just utter, utter evil. i'm going to take a break and when i come back, we'll be moving on to radio. >> hello, i'm michel with you till 7:00 tonight alongside the tory life pe

alex dean peter hitchens. dean and peter hitchens.'ll be interested in their obviously their views and obviously the migration the migration story as well. the leaked memo about the five year plans. >> it was always going to be five years, wasn't it? at least. but i just find it absolutely disgraceful. always britain but i just find it absolutely disblame. l. always britain but i just find it absolutely disblame. is always britain but i just find it absolutely disblame. is britainays britain but i just find it absolutely disblame. is britainays blame| to blame. is britain to blame for french not doing their for the french not doing their job? britain to blame for the job? is britain to blame for the human gangs? human trafficking gangs? is britain's because human trafficking gangs? is britain'willingly because human trafficking gangs? is britain'willingly b

and peter hitchens, as well. i can't wait , actually. yeah, can't wait, actually.to the end of your show to skip to the end of your show too quickly. but yeah. what was that? >> that shock, horror. we have arrived it. time flew. time arrived at it. time flew. time has already. michelle arrived at it. time flew. time has willeady. michelle arrived at it. time flew. time has willeadywith:helle arrived at it. time flew. time has willeadywith you e dewberry will be with you for a fantastic hour. coming way. fantastic hour. coming your way. i'll see you in a tick. thank you, everybody. and thank you for got involved for everyone who's got involved with the campaign. sorry >> things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. proud up. boxed boilers, proud sponsors weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for for gb news the met office for for gb news the rest of monday. pretty warm across the south with many places seeing sunny spells. there are a few showers around andifs t