peter the great, great, catherine the great, charlemagne. we don't do great in america which is one of the reasons we set ourselves up for a fall. we want great as commonly displayed. jeffersonnswers the door of the white house and his slippers. much slippers. much to the dismay of the british ambassador. harry truman invested in chrysler, and the president drive 1200 miles up through new jersey and over to michigan gets pulled over for speeding they eat in diners, there is no security, no advance team. we fool and trick ourselves. we say we do not want great, and yet we really do, except we wanted packaged in a way consistent with our own aversion to the trappings of conventional power. we want great as humility humbleness but we want our presidents to be greater than we are. we in some respects are already conflicted, and conflicted, and i think that is a crucial.in understanding and validating your point. there is a quote in that book by john steinbeck i think on page 179. [laughter] and i don't want to use this as a prop. >> you just did. >> yes, here it is. >> in short, we may be to ambivalence about greatness to appreciate but certainly we love and blast our presidents