welcome back across like where all things are considered i'm peter lawwell to remind you we're discussing the media and the divide in america. let me go to you in new york here i i asked rob about using the word traitor and being considered treacherous or treasonous here it's very difficult to have a conversation with someone after you've called them that ok and this is what i find very dangerous i mean i can give you a real life example you know from the great saga called russia russia russia ok i know all of the name calling of leaders around the world and then how do you sit down and talk ok and i think that this is what's really foolish. about journalism when you get that hyperventilation that you know you get the the adrenaline rush and you feel really great but then when you you know think about what you just said and you're supposed to be some kind of. play of some kind of public role adding value to the public sphere and then you call he's a traitor you're a traitor you know it doesn't get down to it's not disagreeing with someone now it is the are morally. unacceptable that's not