more old bear and a member of the european parliament at the time worked with her german colleague peter lizato implement some reforms. but liza still doesn't like the idea of a government testing agency. but it's often front government in i've been working on this for a long time and i believe that such an agency would not enhance product safety. but do it at the. internal e-mails from the federal health ministry stressed the importance of patient protection but there are two other goals. established acceptance of see. certification. and faster market access. starts up and i took to health ministry officials about creating a new agency. but they thought the idea of needing a license was totalitarian madness mister that's what somehow. inspan is now the federal health minister we caught up with him at an event sponsored by the pharmacy lobby but he declined to comment on allegations that the monitoring of medical devices doesn't go far enough. and we wanted to find out why he continues to support the use of private companies to test the devices. spun has declined repeated requests for an inte