peter luther has an answer. "given our current financial situation, i hope we are not going to double our costs to do this. let's make this happen asap." since you are the head of this consumer group, are you trying to lead this committee to believe that you knew nothing about it? apparently from this memo, there was widespread discussion within your organization about a phantom recall, about the cost of the recall, about not being able to get cooperation from the marketing people. you are at the top of this group, and you knew nothing about it? i'm not talking about what is on the record. are you saying that no one ever talked to you about it? not only that you have no recollection, but you are sure no one talked to you about it? >> thank you for the opportunity. as i said in my opening testimony -- >> answer my question. not your opening testimony. >> i did not know at the time that i testified in may. i have since learned that there was a retrieval going on. i did not know that at the time of my testimony. >>