efforting contact with the madoff sons spokesperson as well as the spokesperson for shauna madoff and peter madoff as well. as widely expected, in his interview with "60 minutes" last weekend, he has filed this suit as they seek to try to rein in any remaining proceeds of the madoff fraud that they can get. and we're continuing to read this complaint. >> scott, this is the suit that alleges that even if they didn't know, they should have known, right? that's the basic idea here? >> essentially. and michelle, we're reading through it as we go through this. but yes, essentially that, basically that they received proceeds from this fraud, that they should have known about. it will be interesting to see how he goes forward to make this case, particularly with the sons who were near as we could tell were operating a trading business that did not make any trades because the madoff advisory business, as it was later determined, never did make any trades. nonetheless, the inference here from the bankruptcy trustee is that they had to know basically the returns they were getting and huge proceeds they were