right now we're going to bring in former new york police captain peter moreno for insight. the operations for risk and assault. and captain, thank you for being here. good news so far on the ground, they've been able to disarm the trip wires that were set up inside there in that apartment, but still a very dangerous situation. i want you to give us an idea exactly what sort of hazards that the folks on the ground there face and how difficult it's going to be to get in there without causing more lives to be -- more people to be killed, quite frankly, and to preserve what's inside of that apartment as well, to find out where this guy -- find out more about who this guy is and what his intent is, possibly. >> absolutely. i think the preservation of evidence is really key, not just as i said for the immediacy of the situation, but for any future harm he may have intended and so, whatever evidence is in there may have clues that would lead investigators to, perhaps a n on site location where they would be secured. >> there's so much more in there. i understand that there are abo