let's listen to peter morici. he's an expert on a lot of this and an economist here in the washington area. >> goldman sachs is like a bookmaker. one client's always going to win, another one ils going to lose, but it's trying to work the game so that it always win. >> i'm sure goldman sachs has something to say about all of this, the way it's been posed so far, it sounds pretty bad. >> well, it's that betting analogy that seems to be getting to them. both blankfein and goldman deny that they're engaging in any type of massive bet against their clients. they deny knowing the housing market was going to collapse, though blankfein has said all along that the bank was doing what good banks do, basically exercises in risk management. the question, of course, is whether blankfein is telling the truth. and we'll see. >> all right, joe, you'll stick with us throughout the hour. also expected to testify tomorrow, goldman's fabrice tourre. he calls himself fabulous fab, i've heard. helped concoct many of these iffy investm